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Went to a restaurant in LA today and when I got the check I noticed that it was a bit higher than it should be. Then I noticed this 18% service charge. So... We, as customers, need to help pay for their servers instead of the owners paying their servers a living wage. And on top of that they have suggested tip. I called bs on this. I will bet you that the servers do not see a dime of this 18% service charge. [deleted a word so it wasn't a grammatical horror to read]
Let the manager know that you won't be returning and make sure they understand why, then never return.
I never tip on card. I leave it on the table. Too many stories of employers stealing it.
(US Only) Tip on tips, look at the receipt. If it has the server's name on it then put the tip on the card if you are worried about it being stolen by an employer. The name on the receipt means that the payment is being logged and used for payroll taxes, which means that there are federal labor laws protecting that. Sure, the server will have to include it in his/her taxes because they receive it as part of their paycheck, but it is a lot harder to steal.
I have heard about a local restaurant where the owner was a total chauvinist pig who let the bussers claim that the "tips on the table was for them". Still paid servers tipped minimum and only hired young girls (like 18/19) so they wouldn't know their rights or fight back. I have never been back to that place after hearing that. It was so disgusting.
Demand they give the service charge to the server. I’ve done this with a manager recently and he was so embarrassed when it was brought to public attention he promised he would. Then I said, it was simply disgraceful to see an attempt to double dip with a mandatory charge a server wouldn’t see. But I’m a large man, so might not be easy for everyone.
Turns out my local casinos restaurant does this aswell but its called a forced gratuity.
Those prices are bloody insane to begin with. >22$ plus tax for chicken wings??? I can eat for 3 days just for that.
Glad to see they're paying a living wage and the tip went back to being an optional gratuity instead of something the server depends on to make their rent.
So they think they are a hotel providing a venue and service? I worked in Hospitality as HR and the service charge made sense for the weddings and events we did... But a smaller restaurant using a 'service' tax that they most certainly do not feed back to the employees, is predatory.. and as the consumer eating out... I would be disinclined to tip now... If they really used the service tax for the employees, the tips would not be an option, because the staff would be adequately compensated... They wouldn't need toa sk for the tips... This restaurant wants it's cake and to eat it too
There's already a service charge, why tip more?
You had a los Angeles woman for only 3.75?
That was the coke, but still a damn good street price.
I will bet you that the servers do not see a dime of this 18% service charge.
That's exactly why so many restaurants are adding service charges nowadays. It's a way to legally take tip money from servers.
It's great if they include it in the bill, it gets rid of the tipping culture. If they still ask you for tips then tell them to GTFO
Oh, please help me on this.
I'm Italian and going on a trip to the western US in less than two weeks, and still haven't understood how to behave wrt tipping/service charge.
In my previous trips to the US, before this nonsense was automatically added to the bill, I would tip between 15 and 20% depending on my level of satisfaction with the waiting staff.
What should I do now, when visiting places auto-charging a service fee?
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
If they're auto-charging it, don't tip any extra on top. Check every receipt because in many places you'll see they automatically add gratuity. This place is definitely shady for adding it as a "service fee" and then still putting suggested tip amount afterwards. I would say do not feel guilty and do not think twice. Service fee implies that it paid for the service.
If that 18% ain't on the menu, I ain't paying.