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This shouldn't come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All instances should start blocking them. Lemmy.world Admins should be on high alert but something tells me they won't block meta.

Guys, everyone move to small instances so that all the power doesnt go to one instance. I joined aussie.zone just for this reason.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Petition your instance admin to defederate from Threads!

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This wouldn't matter. Defederating means you don't pull their data, not the other way around.

The article is just describing how ActivityPub works. What would be more important is how they claim to use that data. But that they collect that data is inherent to how the protocol works. They'd have to mention they collect it legally.

[–] hazelnoot@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Defederation actually does work both ways if the instance enables AUTHORIZED_FETCH. That setting requires 3rd party systems to prove their identity before they can retrieve any data, which allows an instance to block defederated domains. I don't know if Lemmy or Kbin supports that, but practically all of the microblogging fedi software does (that being Mastodon / GlitchSoc, Pleroma / Akkoma, Misskey / FoundKey / FireFish, and GoToSocial).

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[–] may_pretender@feddit.ro 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There seems to be a general consesnus that feddiverse users don't want anything to do with meta and that instances will defederate with threads. I'm curious if the majority will follow this trend to avoid yet another EEE, or if there will be some exceptions. I bet meta will be open to pay good money to instance admins for "colaboration" if the instance is big enough.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago

if there will be some exceptions.

lemmy.world and mastodon.social decided not to defederate threads.

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[–] pumpedUpWalrus@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can someone please explain why this matters. Almost all madtadon instances are public and can be data mined by any company. Why is it such a large concern if threads is able to see a portion of the posts on the fediverse like any other mastadon instance. To me the only thing threads federation changes is allowing me to view posts on threads without the amount of MS my cursor is over the podt being data mined to know what food Ill be craving in a week.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So they'll grab what is needed to federate? The same stuff every instance grabs?

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[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Like tentacles of a blood sucking octopus...

Yep. If “world” doesn’t defederate from Threads l am going to main another instance

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wouldnt the name of your profile be more specific than your ip address so it doesnt matter if they get your ip address or not?

Also, why would they store the data? They cant show you ads

[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I think the policy has more to do with your server's IP address. The language on the page is a bit vague, since they absolutely collect the IP addresses of their own users.

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