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I am a Linux beginner/amateur and I have sort of had enough of copy and pasting commands I find on the internet without having a good understanding of how they actually work.

I guess my end goal is to be able to comfortably install and use arch Linux with my own customization's and be able to fix it when things go wrong.

What tips/ideas do you have for getting better at navigating the terminal, and getting a better understanding of how the os works. What is a good roadmap to follow? And how did you, advanced Linux user, get to the stage your at now?

Edit: my current distro is bazzite just in case you were interested and thanks for all the replies you are all really helpful.

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[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm late to the party but have you seen Linux Journey? https://linuxjourney.com/

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Thats really cool thanks.

[–] fool@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

erasure edit: ok nvm, thanks

With arch, I'd recommend just jumping in the deep and and installing it, looking things up on the wiki when something goes wrong. Just do it in a virtual machine or on an old laptop or something to start with. I broke my previous distro (mint) by doing some really stupid stuff, and I decided to just go fuck it and install arch. I don't think I've ever learned as much about linux as that weekend.

I suppose that I was already pretty comfortable with the terminal since I was studying computer science at the time so I had a lot of reason to use it. I think the best way to use the terminal is to force yourself to use it, programming is great for this but you can try e.g. sorting your photos or mp3 files or something as practice too.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

When you are doing stuff in the terminal write it down somewhere else also, on a piece of real life paper or in a simple text document or whatever works for you.

In general I found taking notes while trying to do things in the terminal helped me learn.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
  1. Learn FreeBSD.

  2. Learn Linux.

/s

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

If you're in the position to take certificates then that's a another way of learning a lot. At least it has worked for me. I've over the last half year taken RHCSA and RHCE from RedHat - though paid by work. Theses in specific are expensive, but I'm sure there are other ones that are cheaper. This would also allow you to 'show off' your skills in an official way should you need to, for applying for certain jobs etc..

I at least find this way to be helpful as you have to motivate yourself to learn and pass an exam to get the certificate. It might not be for everyone though.

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Switch to rolling distro, it will break so many things with each update you'll learn stuff by fixing it. Also you can check https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought rolling releases were still pretty stable to things really break that often?

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I guess my end goal is to be able to comfortably install and use arch Linux with my own customization’s and be able to fix it when things go wrong.

Why? I have been using Linux for nearly two decades and I am perfectly content with a low-config distro and desktop environment. You don’t have to use Arch but if you insist get a Steam Deck.

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[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I have sort of had enough of copy and pasting commands I find on the internet without having a good understanding of how they actually work.

One thing you could do is start trying to understand those commands.

Read the man pages or the documentation to figure out what the commands are actually doing. Once you have the "what" , you can dig deeper to get to the "why" if it isn't obvious by that point.

After enough of that, you'll go to copy/paste and already understand what it's doing without needing to look it up again.

Then from there, it's a matter of building the instinct to be able to say "I need to do X, so I'll use commands Y and Z."

[–] berryjam@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] bishoponarope@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] unrealapex@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I'd recommend reading man pages. They're a great way to understand the programs that are on your system. The Arch Wiki and the Gentoo Wiki both provide additional information that may be of use to you.

[–] Spyder@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago
[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

"I take full responsibility for my Arch system."

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Here is a bunch of random tips to become more comfortable with the terminal.

Do absolutely everything that you can on the terminal.

When you install something, enable the verbose if possible and snoop around the logs to see what is happening.

If an app or an install fails, look at the logs to see what is the issue, and try to fix it by actually resolving the error itself first instead of finding the commands on the internet to fix your issue.

Instead of googling for your command options, use the help menu from the application and try to figure out how to use the command from there.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

on the tailend of a convo in in a discord recently I added a command to the "customize chatgpt" section to allow chatgpt to have a custom "man" like command similar to linux, but that works for all code or commands.

This makes chatgpt give me a Linux command or code snippet formated in a table explaining what each piece of the command does.

when a prompt is givin beginning with the word man followed by code or commands please respond with a table following these rules and nothing else: skip title row, No backticks around command components, No unnecessary rows, column 1 should contain the command component, column 2 should contain a brief command description

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

I learned a lot by using a less common distro (solus). When I would have a problem, the solutions I could find on forums or arch wiki wouldn't apply to my distro directly, and I would have to look into the solution for long enough to understand what needed to change in order for the solution to work.

You can probably do this on any distro, just by not using commands you find online until you understand what they're doing and why that might fix your problem. Arch wiki is a great resource for any distro, even though it won't always be accurate for the distro you're on.

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