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After all the BS from /u/spez?

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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We are losing a lot, this new ActivityPup fediverse is exciting but it is like going back a decade for long-term reddit users.

Reddit obviously sucks now and has been like this for years, IMO it was newReddit and its focus on Facebook users that was the biggest event declining quality. What we had slowly eroded and its no longer there, but there were still enough smaller active communities that it could still be a good experience.

We are rebuilding and it is fun and exciting, but we are losing a big part of our lives in the process, we wont have something equal to what we lost for a couple years to come.

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[–] llama@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

I get the reddit c suite just wants to go public and finally get their payout, which is understandable but if they're out then we're out too. There's better platforms now anyway that need a reason to be used and developed. They could have so easily handled this differently by just making the reddit app experience better than any third party apps today. But here we are and honestly I wouldn't bet my retirement that teenagers will still be posting to reddit in 40 years.

[–] yozozo@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago

Hahaha people are stupid bro

[–] Wiring8084@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly, it's a information goldmine. You'll get answers to most obscure questions and in detail. All others sources on the internet are either fluff or endorsements. It it also inconvenient to have to visit two websites that does same thing. So people don't want to abandon what they are habituated to.

[–] Capt_Brunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Like it or not. The internet is evolving.

[–] The1Morrigan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Because Reddit is familiar and people like to stick with what they're used to and comfortable with.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

The silver lining is that hopefully we can get a few people off Reddit and onto here and eventually grow these spaces. I do miss the thousands of upvotes and comments though, but that'll come in time

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Some people like my bf just browse for a little bit of their communities and don‘t care about anything else.

However, if we make this place interesting enough they will come naturally, those sorts of people are like moths who are attracted to interesting content.

[–] RegalOne@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been my community since like 2007. It's hard to move on from all of those conversations and inside jokes because suddenly the landlord says he gets to be a part of our conversations because he owns the property despite never participating in anything besides maybe suggesting a few holiday events that the community had to make happen and execute on their own. It has nothing to do with the site. It has to do with what we created there, a lot like the street corner that used to be a thing. It's been made clear we're no longer welcome there and we'll find a new corner to hang out on. And as soon as it's user friendly enough the masses will follow. That's a mixed blessing because the same tired replies and memes will follow but the content will be there.

I'm a little drunk right now so I'm being overly sentimental, but the point remains. We miss the experiences we had, and fuck that greedy, spineless motherfucker for making us go elsewhere. But we'll do it and laugh about it the same way we used to about Digg. "Fuck Kevin Rose" was a thing the same way "Fuck u/spez" is.

[–] Colt420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Actually when you realize he did contribute it's worse than if he didn't. u/spez used to be a moderator. On r/jailbait. You can guess what that was for yourself

[–] DaGuys470@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

There are about 5 years of my life on there, for some users 15+. Now, if you dropped your laptop with 15 years worth of memories on it, you damn sure would have hope you could still save the data, even if it's obviously done for.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing, at least partially, sunk cost fallacy.

[–] ewe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And not knowing about alternative places.

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[–] g2g079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Because there is not yet a full alternative to reddit.

[–] nightscout@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For people who were more than just the causal browser/lurker, Reddit was an amazing place to not only obtain information about very specific things, but also to connect with other people. I have type 1 diabetes and the ability to connect with other type 1 diabetics to commiserate, share information, and seek help on Reddit was like nothing else anywhere else on the internet. I have a few other niche interests that also only had communities on Reddit.

Years ago, these things (health conditions, niche interests, etc) all had their own separate forums scattered throughout the internet. One forum might have a few dozen people, one might have a hundred or so. But Reddit quickly became the central place where we could connect. Whereas forums could maybe attract a few hundred people, subreddits could connect with THOUSANDS. There’s not yet been anything else like it.

Unfortunately, we made the BIG mistake of relying on a for-profit, centrally owned company to function as a town square. Same with Twitter. We found value in sharing information and connecting through these platforms, only to get screwed over by billionaire CEOs.

Hopefully we have learned our lesson. Hopefully something comparable will take Reddit’s place. It’s not going to happen over time. I never expected Mastodon to replace Twitter overnight. But slowly, very slowly, at least some people are seeing the downfall of corporate social media and will hopefully slowly switch over to federated alternatives. I don’t think it will happen quickly, nor will it happen for everything. But I do think it’s already happening. And it will happen faster if we get some good mobile apps.

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[–] dreamfall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I have no hope, but there are a few subs that I still love and it's sad that he is destroying that so he can make reddit like every other soul-sucking social network. reddit is unfortunately the only place I can go to discuss random things I love like the EPL, or WNBA, or the japanese show Gaki No Tsukai as no one around me in real live is into them. Hopefully some of that can transfer to lemmy or other places...but who knows...

[–] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They are just following the reactionary social media norms these days. The lack of proper passing of information and just humoured by the subreddit protests such as in r/pics. Some people are not actually on Reddit for information.

[–] danieljackson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit is profiting a lot from the network effect. By now this reddit is a known brand, has a lot of content is already there, has a lot of people (especially non-technical users) are already on reddit, and they're there to stay.

All the other reddit alternatives, including lemmy and/or the fediverse suffers from:

  • Bugs (I love lemmy, but gosh, have you seen how buggy and sometimes unresponsive it is?)
  • The complexity of "servers" (don't get me wrong, federation is the way to go IMHO, but it is confusing to non-technical users)
  • Lack of content
  • Lack of users

Everybody is talking about the Digg exodus, but nobody is saying that it didn't happen in a day, it took ~1 to 2 years.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I get a "sunk-cost fallacy" feel from it. Like Bill Hicks' bit went- This HAS to be real. Look at my furrows of worry- look at all this Karma. This has to be real!"

.. it's just a ride.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Why? Because the whole reason reddit is even worth visiting is the posters.

Sure, the people in charge of the whole infrastructure that supports the act of posting and reading posts are making destructive "business decisions", but until now they've largely been basically a bunch of invisible, nameless, inconsequential people as long as the proverbial lights stayed on for my ten years on reddit. They were technically in charge of stuff, but any time there was drama around reddit employees themselves, I had to go to places like /r/outoftheloop or /r/ELI5 in order to figure out what in the actual heck the inexplicable hubub was all about.

To me, that means they're NOT what reddit is, they're just the people who make it possible.

The folks who do lights and sound at a stage play are necessary for the play to function at that particular theater, but if they were the only ones doing anything there, noone would show up and stick around.

Inertia is a horrible thing. It took a LONG time for most of the niche communities on reddit to get "established" enough to have semi-regular content. Inertia being what it is, it will likely take quite a while for the same to happen here and it won't be exactly the same thing. It may be better and worse in some ways, but it WILL be different and some of us were quite comfortable with what we had. So, yeah, hope, because losing something you like and care about, watching it get gutted, wrecked, hobbled, and ruined is not inspiring or fun.

That being said, I'm seeing very encouraging things happening here so far, so this might become my new home.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bots are still on reddit, so all the people they always interact with are still there.

[–] BelieveRevolt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don't care about what happens to Reddit, but hopefully at least some of the content gets saved. It was already annoying when I was trying to find some answers to a tech support question and the subs that had answers were private.

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