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[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I’ve noticed a lot of issues showing up for the Kia and Hyundai cars security wise. I wonder if they’re having issues because there’s more focus on those cars or if their security is really that bad.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Kia/Hyundai "challenge" where people were stealing their cars with a USB cord is because they opted not to include an immobilizer in US models for a decade. Every other car brand had them as standard. Kia even had them as standard in non US cars, but because the USA stupidly does not have a law about it, they opted to drastically reduce car security to save a few dollars per car.

This has made them prime targets, as people know they make bad security choices whenever they can save a buck.

So a bit of both, I expect.

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 4 months ago

I'm still amazed that immobilizers aren't a legal requirement in the USA, and that Kia would remove them from US models just to save a small amount of money.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 9 points 5 months ago

Both probably. I’m sure a lot of cars have problems like this, but they just haven’t been found and there are already known vulnerabilities to focus on.

[–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't look into South Korean web security. If their cars are as badly designed as their websites... Yikes

[–] curry@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

They went balls deep with the devil's spawn called nprotect.