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@elston_@noauthority.social @adachika192@hcommons.social @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe You know, unlike some other country that Trump may be familiar with, Germany has freedom of speech. Everyone is indeed allowed to call Robert #Habeck a Schwachkopf.
Try being in Orcistan and calling Vladimir Vladimirovich a Дурак. That'll end quite differently.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
@elston_@noauthority.social @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192@hcommons.social @palestine@lemmy.ml He definitely did use his right to free speech there, yes.
He was spewing nonsense and made himself into a clown - but it was his right to.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
@palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192@hcommons.social @palestine@lemmy.ml @elston_@noauthority.social To be fair most memes are illegal in the US too and just rarely enforced. Copyright law is real, and the bar for fair use is not zero.
Germany has long standing bans for "emblems of anti constitutional organizations" (i.e. swastikas), incitement to hatred ("Volksverhetzung") and of course copyright violations too. All three, BTW, forced on Germany by the US after WW2 for the first two and the latter was primarily US induced along the lines of DMCA, too. As such, Americans have no right to complain - their own country made it so, Germany is to blame only for listening to 'Murica at all (but it is not like they had a choice for the first two).
Fun fact: you think incitement memes are legal in the US? Think again. People get anti harassment court orders for less, and recently these orders also remove constitutional rights to self defense (something both Biden and Trump are in favor of).
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
Ideas for Europe worth considering...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/18/europe-eu-nato-us-russia-ukraine/
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
You make a great argument on why more meme posting is needed! Fight fire with fire!
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
Free speech is an inalienable right. God-given to posit it above the state. All governments can go to hell if they try to limit it including the U.S. I agree that last two decades US has been going wrong way. I don't defend it.
Germany should be seeking to change constitution. Germany needs political revolution where AfD & populist left typified by Sahra Wagenknecht wrest power from dumb coalition running Germany into the ground.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
He offended the sensibilities of the European political elites who try to silence dissent, protect their own power, and suppress alternative views, particularly on issues like immigration, COVID policies, and the EU’s direction. And for that I commend him.
@palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192@hcommons.social @palestine@lemmy.ml @elston_@noauthority.social The issue is not that he is right, but that he is such a hypocrite. The US have been silencing dissent for over a decade now.
Recently they banned a picture book about a girl with freckles from nearly all libraries (as almost all US libraries are school affiliated). The book has nothing LGBTQ or whatever in it. Nothing about slavery. The only issue is that its author votes the other party. THAT is where the US are, and have been for the last decade - because of course the left also restricted speech when in power.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
Weak example.
Freckleface Strawberry by J. Moore, has been temporarily removed from libraries in Department of Defense Education Activity schools. This is part of a review initiated by the DOD to ensure compliance with executive orders targeting "gender ideology" & "racial indoctrination."
This action pertains only to schools operated by the DOD & does not represent nationwide ban on the book.
Expand your news sources beyond ARD & ZDF.
@elston_@noauthority.social @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192@hcommons.social @palestine@lemmy.ml It's an example of a ridiculous (but yes, temporary) ban. We also are aware that other school libraries are using the same list - I know of at least one non military school affiliated library that also enforces this list "to be safe".
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
Point to ponder continued:
Free Speech vs. Free Access:
The First Amendment protects speech, but it doesn't guarantee access to every book in every place.
Censorship vs. Curating:
Curating is selecting content for a specific audience, while censorship restricts access to content everywhere.
Freedom of Choice:
Removing a book from a school library doesn't stop people from finding it elsewhere; it's not a ban on the book itself.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
Points to ponder:
Library vs. Public Availability:
Schools can choose what books to offer, but books are still available in other places like public libraries or bookstores.
Parental Involvement & Community Values:
Schools reflect community values, & parents may not want certain books available for younger students.
Curriculum Control:
Schools control their curriculum & materials; removing a book doesn't prevent its broader availability.
@divVerent @palestine@a.gup.pe @adachika192 @palestine@lemmy.ml
You are conflating not having a book in a school library with the banning of free speech.
Completely banning a book and not having it in a local school library are two different things.
Transgender activists want all kinds of books in schools that a majority of parent's do not want.