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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think plastic waste is specific to capitalism.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, but the ultra wealthy having the wealthy necessary to bribe politicians, buy all our media, and push endless disinformation with zero accountability are all a direct result of capitalism.

Publically owner companies, like the USPS, are extremely transparent with how they spend money and they are held to far higher ethical standards than private companies are.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah social democracy is good but it doesn't make plastic waste disappear, neither would fascism, it's nonsequitur.

Plastic is cheap. It would be as cheap for a communism as it is a capitalism.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed, the 1st and 3rd worst offenders for plastic per capita are administrative regions of China (Macau and Hong Kong) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/plastic-pollution-by-country

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They're also a capitalism, though, so yeah.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be taxed for the irreparable harm on the environment and required to compensate fully all damage to nature if it were not for lobbying, a demonic ritual at the center of capitalism. Almost no other nation allow open bribery and lawmaking to corporations in exchange for money. It's counter productive and immoral

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Again that is not really solving the problem by getting rid of capitalism, that's solving the problem by empowering democracy. The market system would still be capitalism even if lobbying were banned and fines were proportional.

[–] commander@lemmings.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Being in a capitalist society, we don't value a sustainable way of life.

Democracy has nothing to do with it. The lack of regulation is not a fault of democracy, as most citizens don't want these businesses to be regulated.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If democracy has nothing to do with your ideal governance, then congratulations you're a fascist/authoritarian.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Who said anything about ideal governance?