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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 52 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

Any advice that starts with "just..." is automatically invalid.

... Make a list and do one at a time.
... Set a reminder.
... Install some time-tracking productivity software on your phone or computer.
... Go for a walk and clear your head.
... Keep a jug of water nearby.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I often find some ADHD people (myself included for a long time) for some reason automatically shun the simple ideas like this. ALOT of them really are helpful and it does take ALOT of will power. Especially for someone with executive function disorder.

Maybe I’m just a one off case but after putting in years of effort the habits I made have really helped me. And I can feel the damage that occurs when I stop doing them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the ideas themselves that are the issue, it's the idea that a person making the suggestion will fix you with such basic suggestions. Alarms? Oh, I hadn't heard of those, and now I'm cured! Time tracking software? I had not thought of that! Suppose I can cancel my therapy appointments.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I think it’s usually more of a suggestion of a place to start. Alarms for example are really good. Especially if you issue is not being able to remember things. There is no one size fits all solution.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You’re definitely not alone.

I think the key is that we are so often told what to do, but rarely are instructed on how to do it - it’s easy to give advice, but without providing the structure to actually implement the advice, it isn’t worth much. People seem to forget how much work it takes for us to do the things they suggest. Very little advice is as straight-forward as advice-givers make it sound.

Like above, one can say “install time-tracking productivity software” but what does that really mean? To me, it means that now I’ll have to research different types of software. Which means I have to find something compatible with my devices that also: respects my privacy, is easy to use, that has a reasonable price point, and won’t bombard me with ads. If I manage to do all that without getting side-tracked for too long (which is a big “IF”), THEN I have to set up the software and figure out how to use it. Only after all that can I get to the step of actually using it… which honestly, is easy to forget to do as well.

Point is, a lot of “simple advice” isn’t actually that simple for people with ADHD. So when people talk like an idea is some easy thing, it can leave a lot of us feeling like we can’t even reach out for help because iT’s sO siMpLe that asking for help feels embarassing. Yet without guided support, it’s much easier to discount the advice outright than to try to figure out how to implement it on our own. So we fall into that trap, and the “good advice” is ignored yet again.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I think generally the idea is to start small

[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

100% all those simple ideas definitely work for anyone, but it usually takes far longer for someone with ADHD to implement these ideas and make them a habit on their own, and even more effort to keep the habit going. This is really confusing to someone without ADHD because in their own lives when they put effort in to changing something they usually see results somewhat quickly. Thus, they assume the ADHD individual does not care or have the desire to change because there’s no immediate visible results, or not as many visible results over a longer period of time

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah it takes a lot of mindfulness for sure. I just want people to know there is hope, and there is good advice out there. It’s just hard, and that really sucks. I hope people can find good support structures like I did.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not it's not. You are right. It takes a lot longer to learn those habits and apply it in a useful way. It's taken me ~9 years and of taking it more seriously. I still f up from time to time. Just not nearly as much as when I started trying to get my shit together. (Even my test results showed overcompensation in my attention problem lol)

You still need to develop those skills on meds. Which takes practice. Meds make it easier to practice.

I think a lot of people on these communities are at a point of discovery and realization. That there is a big factor (ADHD) causing their struggles in life. That they are not "just lazy and undisciplined." A phase that can look like self-victimization and excuses.

Thing that worked well for me btw, is the ADHD guide on HealthyGamerGG. The name sounds stupid, but it's the online name of a psychiatrist with experience with ADHD patients, and he takes a hollistic approach. I usually despise every form of spirituality, but he managed to filter out the "woo woo" (as he calls it) and stick to the practical aspects of meditation and how the mind works. Helped me understand my issues and how to handle them better.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I also urge people to be careful with medication. Dosing is important. I was put on a high level of medication and it basically just cracked me out 24/7. I would tell people it was helping me but it held me back a lot. Several of my friends of victims of the same issues. The drugs gave me all the serotonin I needed and it kinda kept me from doing anything at all instead of leveling me out where I could focus.

It took a lot of self reflection to see the damage it was doing.

Medication is a valuable tool but listen to your support structures and let your doctors know how you are responding to your meds.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Solid advice! Thanks

I have started the HealthyGamer guide recently and watched about a dozen videos. Haven’t really done the worksheets or meditated regularly though.

What was your journey like? How did you use it? Any tips?

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The one that got me when I was still undiagnosed still infuriates me to this day.

You just need to apply yourself more.

I tried that and went from a 90 average slacking off to a 92 burning myself out "applying myself" in place of any activity that brought me joy.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

I didn't understand for so long how people could just sit down and do shit, while I hated doing things like dishes so much it made me irrationally angry.

Just knowing I have a problem helped. With some consideration and research I got ideas on how to deal with some of my problems. Example: hate washing dishes? Reduce the number of dishes you have at home and replace as many as possible with dishwasher-safe alternatives (assuming you have a dishwasher). Then they can't pile up so bad and it becomes less intimidating to take on.

What didn't help: suggestions from people without ADHD. "Just do it", "schedule it", "task tracker", etc.. yeah fuck that.

  • Struggle with eating fruit/veg instead of shit snacks? Buy pre-cut stuff.
  • Don't know what to cook? Use a recipe randomizer each week and just buy what you need, or just do 5 pages out of a cookbook or something, idk. Hell for a while I just made the same meals every week, no planning necessary.
  • Hate folding clothes? Just don't. Reduce the amount of clothing you have, get bins for each type of clothing, separate and pile that shit.
[–] Shou@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Same here. Even my test results showed signs of overcompensation. I got most stuff correct in time, but my impulsivity (and gaming addiction) shined through. It was stressful as hell and I tried my best. Then took the test again on meds and 1) it wasn't stressful, I was zen! 2) I was far less impulsive. xD

I will ask my psychiatrist to do the test again on medication. Interesting.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Wow, that's an amazing list of things I never considered doing"

Man, NTs get mad when you sarcastically point out why their advice is bad and you're not willing to play along to not hurt their feelings.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, frankly I'm shocked by the number of comments saying "I dont understand, why are you complaining about all my good ideas?"

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then give examples of what is valid.

Otherwise both problems persist. Misunderstanding by normals and undiagnosed ADHD-affected missing a tool.

I have no idea how to deal with someone that has adhd. I just know that they can't process time the same way other people can.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

What is valid is mind your business. If you meet someone in a wheelchair, do you start recommending surgical treatments or physical therapy exercises? ADHD is a medical condition, and there is no cure-all treatment or technique that will make the problem go away. You deal with someone who has ADHD with understanding and empathy. If their condition affects you, especially in a negative way (they frequently forget plans, or they are late and you find yourself waiting) then you should honestly communicate those issues. But it's not your problem to fix. Some problems can't be fixed. You're entitled to your happiness, but unless you're their doctor, you don't need to help them come up with a solution.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

What a non-answer. I have a colleague with adhd that lost a customer because he couldn't finish a job in time. Quite literally my business.

How do i help so it doesn't happen again? From all i hear its a treatable issue.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It sounds like the implied sequence from your original post was in fact:

  1. You privately had a concern
  2. You mentioned it to noone and it had no impacts on anyone else
  3. A stranger came up and told you to just do X

Did I get that right? That's what it sounds like from the mind your own business angle.

Helping them get professional help from a doctor or therapist can be very helpful though. Also ask what you can do to support them.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I understand most of what you're saying, but wouldn't setting a reminder help with some things? I have ADHD and it does help me with some of the things I need to get done. Is your problem with that one more that it just sounds condescending?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Of course it would, but it's like meeting a deaf person and suggesting hearing aids and closed captioning. You think people don't know about setting reminders?

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Just thinking about reminders is making me anxious. And arbitrary reminders or artificial deadlines are totally useless because I set them and know they don't matter, so I'll just skip them anyway.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They're all pretty helpful. I also don't understand.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I can understand that they are not magic fixes and they are overstated as advice, but I would agree that at least some of them help a lot of people.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I swear by the go for a walk one.

Doesn't mean you'll magically be able to concentrate but context switches sometimes help focus on different issues. Plus it's healthy. Spend 3 days cooped up in your home trying to work from home and that walk outdoors is going to do wonders for your well-being.

It's like a quick reboot for your brain. Not a silver bullet, but sometimes it helps. A lot of the time it doesn't.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Works for me, too, sometimes. But I also have arthritis, not that I would expect anyone to know that, but that's kind of my point. There's no cure for ADHD, and you definitely can't fix it if you "just" do one of the most common methods of mitigating symptoms. Oh, you have back pain? Just take a Tylenol. Just do some physical therapy. Just lie down for a bit. Just get a spinal fusion surgery.

Any of those might help, or maybe not.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Yup. I found that "taking the mind out on walkies" offers space for the mental storm to calm down a bit. Doesn't do shit for focus, but takes away stress.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That one is pretty useless if you have an hourly job. Oh, I'll just leave the store whenever I want and won't get fired, hmm? And the infuriating thing will still be there when I get back.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then the advice is not for you, and you should ignore it. OP clearly said it's for people who work from home and never leave (guilty).

You can't make bean soup if you don't have beans.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

OP did say that in this particular instance, and I may have missed that on first read. But this advice is all over the place generally, and I've frequently received this advice IRL, with no caveats or context, so it's not always a matter of "keep scrolling."

I'm not doing what that article is talking about. I guess instead of reminding people that there are a lot of neurodivergent people not working remotely, I should have just silenced myself. I mean, why even have a thread like this at all if the advice works for some people?

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

I do not know how "ignore the advice if it doesn't apply to you" could be any more clear in the actual post we're commenting on, and in my comment.

It sounds like you're unhappy in your job and need an outlet, but being neurodivergent and unable to go for a walk isn't really it.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes, that's true. You'll have to find a coping mechanism of your own.

Me? I wasn't able to cope with having a soul-crushing job where I had to be there from 9 to 5 and do nothing particularly intellectually engaging. I quit without a new job in hand. What happened from that point on was pure luck though, so I can't really recommend you do this.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously putting the effort in and doing these things over and over again, reinforcing it in my head, for two decades helped me really get my adhd in control. It took like ten years for me to feel like I made any progress though, and I felt like a hopeless moron. But it started to work. I never tried medication for mine and I’m glad now that I didn’t.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah. I run my own contracting company now and have managed to be super organized lol

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

I do the 3 first points at the same time and 5. Maybe i should do 4 more often. I think these things have helped me so far but it took me like a decade to implement correctly XD

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Man the tips work for some and not for some. Just is some people's way of trying to make it easier, seem easier to remove the threshold just a tiny bit. You don't need to shit on the people trying to help

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's not that the methods are bad or ineffective, it's that the advice is unsolicited and condescending. Do you offer to help everyone you meet with every one of their medical conditions? You meet somebody with a rash, and you say "just rub some vaseline with aloe on that, it'll go away." You don't know the cause of the rash, or if that will help, or if they tried it already. There's no "just" anything that makes ADHD go away.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago

You don't need to shit on the people trying to help

When the advice is akin to telling an amputee to just grow back a limb, yeah you kinda do.

I understand that the advice is coming from (what they consider to be) a good place, but that doesn't change that the advice is coming from a place of ignorance and shows they likely have no understanding of your situation. I've had NTs try this with me, and they get mad when I systematically tell them why their advice is not applicable or coming from a place that shows they have no understanding of my situation. And sometimes they've even told me that I'm just not doing it right, because if I was, it would work.

Generic advice is only good when you can't be bothered to understand someone's situation and feel the need to insert yourself into someone else's life, and without being asked a good amount of the time.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Or maybe don't go poking people with the very specific stick that they've spent their entire lives associating with disappointment, stress, anger, and sometimes punishment, aka "Just perform-action", and expecting to never get snapped at.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Speaking from my own personal mental health journey: Those bits of advice that didn’t work 5 years ago may work now. I couldn’t use mindfulness while my ADHD/C-PTSD was at its peak, but after working on a few other things, suddenly it became a useful tool even if I couldn’t use it for years and years. The advice was still good, but refusing to return to a tool because it didn’t immediately work in the past and getting frustrated and letting that frustration turn to anger doesn’t get me what I am looking for.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

I definitely agree that it could be helpful, but given one of the common co-morbidities with ADHD is Oppositional Defiance Disorder i don't think its a helpful thing to bring up for many people with ADHD in a normal conversation; as the phrase goes, "Change comes from within"