This community is clearly pro-Palestine since I keep getting downvoted, and only my comments are getting deleted, but I do find it funny how everyone here is giving me shit for being a Zionist and everyone else is ignoring my statement about how Palestine would be significantly worse. What's your alternative?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck yes it’s pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist settler-colonialist. It’s anti-apartheid, anti-ethnic cleansing, and anti-genocide.

Palestinians have the right under UN law to struggle against their occupiers by any means necessary, including armed struggle, while the State of Israel, as an occupier, has no right to “self defense.”

[–] Drax_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Idk why I keep going down this rabbit hole, especially when the mods keep censoring every rational argument I make, but I just want my question answered: How is Palestine going to be any better? A state controlled by Hamas? Hamas is also a terrorist organization far worse than the Israeli government. Hamas terrorists intentionally recorded their murder, rape, and torture of civilians, including around 200 foreign nationals, and took at least 240 hostages back with them to Gaza. , which is illegal based on 'UN law' from that Wikipedia article you sent me. Also, if you read that article, you'll notice a lot of it is disputed.

If you support Palestine, then you are not

anti-apartheid, anti-ethnic cleansing, and anti-genocide.

As in their Hamas' own words, they want to get rid of all Jews from the area. will almost definitely be the governing body of Palestine. Not to mention, many Palestinians in Israel want all Jews either dead or gone. To be clear, I am not calling Pro-Palestinians anti-semitic, I am just saying that's what would happen.

Also, to throw in another question: How is Israel 'occupation' any different than North America occupying the lands formerly owned by the Native Americans? Should the U.S., Canada, and Mexico hand it back over to them?

You should watch this video. It's actually very entertaining and informative.

I am right there with you, though. Israel needs to pull out of the Westbank and leave Gaza alone. Netanyahu needs to be tried, and the IDF needs major reforms.

The ideal solution would be to create a 2-state system, but we all know that would never work in practice.

Finally, to the mods- I hope you understand that this application does not have a lot of users and that deleting controversial comments that you dont agree with without any rationale is exactly how you drive out people. I've already unfollowed this sub because of you, and I am contemplating deleting my lemmy account because everything on here is pretty much politics.