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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Seriously. Why do people genuinely think this is a good idea? Colonialism and imperialism is bad.

People should have learned after the US's faults, and overreliance of it due to being a world power; but people just want to do it again???

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes and no. Countries like Russia and China are always going to exist. That means places like the Philippines, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Georgia are always going to need a strong ally if they don't want to be invaded. There are a lot of countries that are going to be very worried now that America has turned heel (Especially Taiwan). Europe has mostly grown out of the need for constant expansion, so having them take on the role of world police wouldn't be the worst thing to happen.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, i know ☹️ Life's unfair. While the idea of one incredibly powerful union scares me (see what they did in the middle east) the other countries are always going to fuck up the balance.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the middle east is a giant shit show that's about to get even worse if trump has anything to say about it. But if it were a union of smaller countries like the EU, they'd (hopefully) keep each other in check.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But if it were a union of smaller countries like the EU, they’d (hopefully) keep each other in check.

Since the Romans withdrew circa 450 the European Nations were almost always at war with one another until 1945; nearly 2,000 years of conflict! The peace they've enjoyed post WWII is because they were focused on an external threat (U.S.S.R.) and the United States functioned as a playground monitor.

So historically speaking they will absolutely NOT "keep each other in check".

We have 2 external threats now. Russia and the USA.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

While the idea of one incredibly powerful union scares me (see what they did in the middle east)

America's adventurism in the ME was but a blip compared to the literal centuries that the Brits and the French have spent fucking up that area of the world. Does no one study history anymore?

Until the 1st world war most of the middle east was controlled by the ottoman empire.all that fucking up by Britain and France was managed in a couple of decades.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I was talking about the french and british, though?

[–] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does this have anything to do with colonialism?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is being a super power inherently inclusive with having colonies? I have never heard of that definition before.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People should have learned after the US’s faults

The U.S. huh? That's who you are going to go with during a discussion of European Imperialism and world power? The Euro's were out fucking up the world before the United States existed and a full half of the world is still desperately fucked up from literal centuries of horrifically brutal European Imperialism.

If you need lessons on anti-imperialism you don't need the United States, just take a gander at the Europeans own histories.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

? I think you misunderstood me. I know, the british and french have caused way more damage than the US has caused here. By the US's faults specifically, i was talking about it caving into fascism (arguably has been rotting for a long time, just finally shown face) and europeans getting away from it. And since the US is a global power, they overrelied on it. Their solution? Just be their another global power, surely nothing bad will happen.