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[โ€“] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Baltics and Finland just chose differently, Finns to fight and Baltics to give in.

Different situations, Finland had lots of sympathies from both future western Allies and the fascist nations, and a better military.

About Czechoslovakia - I meant the Nazi approach to negotiations, like calling bombardment of a city in the middle of a diplomatic meeting. Compared to that USSR was almost civilized. Nazis were much like ISIS (similar ideology to Salafism too).

So if you gain anything depends on whether you believe USSR had further ambitions in Finland or not.

It definitely had, but Stalin with his "socialism in one particular country" already lowered the bar on that a bit. Still till his death USSR would be preparing for global thermonuclear war for world dominance and such.

OK, I think we agree on this. My initial post was about the stereotype which ignores the first and the third of the wars between USSR and Finland, leaving only the second, which was, yes, an aggression against Finland.

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

There definitely had been a long (even centuries long) conflict with Finns and Russians, with their involvement in the Civil War and Finnish heimosodat being the most recent ones before Winter War. So the war didn't come as out of nowhere than some think. But also the long conflict with Russians also played a role in the mistrust in their "we just want small areas to feel safe" argument.