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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I've also been comparing Element and Revolt. Both seem really solid, both are open source and both are self-hostable. Hard to find any downsides there.

There's a discord server that me and a bunch of friends use as our main hangout. They've raised the prospect of bailing before things enshittify, and of course I've been tasked with pitching a replacement. For my money, Revolt is the way I'm going to go, specifically because it's basically a one for one clone of Discord. The people I'm pitching this to are a mix of technical and non-technical, so I think something that looks and feels like what they're used to will be the easiest transition.

It also feels like Element is geared pretty heavily towards being a replacement for Slack / Teams rather than a replacement for Discord. Their pitch seems a lot more focused on the enterprise market. Revolt seems more focused on gaming, casual hangout, that sort of thing.

I like Element a lot, but for me it doesn't feel like the right solution to this specific problem. But if I was pitching something to my work as a Teams replacement, Element is definitely the way I'd go.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 11 points 3 hours ago

Man I wish my online friends were that easy to switch.

As soon as I mention Lemmy "what's wrong with reddit". As soon as I mention element "but everyone uses whatsapp/discord".

It suck that 90% of the people are stuck in their old ways and refuse to try anything new.

Hell I almost got banned for even mentioning lemmy once.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Silly question perhaps, but I haven't tripped across it on the site for Revolt -- is there a relatively straight forward server version for self-hosting, or is it just that the source is on github and you can compile it in theory if you feel like goin through that process... ?

[–] BendingHawk@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The most straight forward I see appears to be Docker hosting

https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted

https://developers.revolt.chat/faq.html#admonition-what-can-i-do-with-revolt-and-how-do-i-self-host

If you're looking to self host but are uncomfortable with Docker I recommend checking out YunoHost as an option for something a bit simpler, they also support Revolt

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Thanks, appreciated.