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Apparently a right-wing deacon said this (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

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[–] sfu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Jesus didn't talk about wealth inequality in that way, as far as wealth being bad. His point was that the wealthy tend to think they have it all and are in need of nothing. Mostly that the richer you are, the more you love money than God.

He wasn't just flipping tables and whipping wealthy people. They were at the temple making money off of selling animals to sacrifice for sins. They had made a business of selling indulgences basically, that was the issue.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth.” And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Mark 10:17-22

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Perfect example.

The rich man loved his wealth more.
"And Jesus, looking at him, loved him..." He didn't whip him and tell him to leave, he loved him.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!” And the disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said to them again, “Children, how difficult it is to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” And they were exceedingly astonished, and said to him, “Then who can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man it is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God.” Peter began to say to him, “See, we have left everything and followed you.” Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”

Mark 10:23-31

Historical Jesus was not on team money and power I don’t think.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Great wealth corrupts people. Jesus did say that even rich people can be saved though. But only with the power of God.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Seems like it would be pretty difficult to get a camel through a needle eye. (That “oh he was actually referring to a gate” is modern horseshit apologetics designed for rich Christians to justify having money btw, totally made up.)

[–] sfu@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wether Jesus was referring to the gate or not kind of doesn't matter, since it was followed with the comment “With man it is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God.” Basically meant a rich man could never do it on his own.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It’s kinda amazing how many logical contortions and apologetics there are to attempt to justify a “Jesus didn’t have a problem with wealth” position. It’s almost as if wealthy people are really committed to coming up with some reason why they get to be the exception to the rule.

It is clear in context the “impossible” thing made possible through god would be the wealthy man giving up his possessions. Your interpretation makes the entire story completely pointless and irrelevant, and requires so many logical leaps as to be ridiculous.

I mean, look at Mark 6:19-21 too.

Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Jesus was flatly opposed to wealth. There is no way around this, it is consistent across the gospels (and not just the canon ones.)

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jesus didn’t talk about wealth inequality in that way, as far as wealth being bad.

He flat-out said, if you're rich in this life, you've had your reward already and you won't get into heaven.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 1 points 47 minutes ago

Never mind, wealth IS bad. But that is because humans are bad.