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[โ€“] Triasha@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Minority groups didn't make up identity politics, majority groups did, when they engaged in oppression of minorities.

Queer people don't have that much in common. Straight people forced us to band together for our rights.

Gay people don't have much in common with trans people, but straight people can't tell us apart/treat us the same so we band together.

Disabled people, people of color, it's similar stories.

[โ€“] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't see it that way. Speaking as non conforming gender bisexual.

I think I can properly defend my rights without making groups that exclude others from it.

Again, just my opinion, and something that I do not agree not in the final goal (everyone being happy and free) but in the how to achieve it.

Also as an European I think identity politics (in this context) were mostly born in USA and imported here later. But we had achieved way more liberties before identity politics than after. We were one of the first countries in the world that legalized gay marriage for instance, and we didn't need the kind of identity politics that exist today to achieve it. And since identity politics took over I feel like we haven't be able to achieve much more, because we take a conflicting approach that meets much more resistance from excluded identities than the previous approach.

At least that's my humble opinion and perception of reality.