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[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well said. I smoked a pack a day for 17 years and finally quit a little over a year ago. Lots of people around me quit around the same time but just ended up exchanging the habit for something else like vaping, chewing, or the new fad: nicotine pouches. It made me feel even better to be entirely nicotine free.

For anyone curious, I used nicotine gum from Costco for the first 2 months to help. It tastes like shit and is not enjoyable at all, but I don't know if I could have done it without.

[–] mrmhm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I think consciously choosing unpleasant methods to get nicotine helped me quit, or at least made quitting a little easier. I understand if you're making that choice you're probably well on your way to quitting anyways, but for me it was a good reminder of the goal.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Congrats on quitting. Shit is super hard

To clarify things from my post: I didn’t even touch upon the environmental harm from vaping. If you use disposable vapes you’re kind of a shithead that is wasting a ton of lithium, that is mined by literal slaves, for your 2 day smoking device that you’ll probably not recycle properly. People recycle these batteries to power e bikes and literal homes. Vape shops with racks of these plastic boxes filled with single use 18650 (or similar high discharge) batteries are an environmental disaster

Nicotine pouches and gum lower the lung risk but are another space where long term risk is unknown.

They do irritate the gums and raise the risk of gum disease

Nicotine in general, gum or pouch, negatively impacts brain development and strains the cardiovascular system.

The acidity from the pouches still irritates the airway and oral mucosa and the constant increase of mucus production can lead to chronic bronchitis

The vasoconstriction effect of nicotine means that there is still potential lung involvement due to decreased blood flow even though it is not inhaled

Nicotine in low doses has some effects similar to adderall or methylphenidate but unlike those medications it tends to increase blood pressure and on long timelines create cardiovascular problems even in low doses. additionally it’s far more addictive (though tbf this is possibly/probably due to ease of access) and most users tend to use a fairly substantial amount, 20-40mg for a pack a day smoker, 35mg for someone who burns through a 5% juul pod in a day, etc

The gum is typically used short term and is actually marketed as a cessation device so that’s one thing but the pouches are huge now as you’ve said. It’s somewhat telling that for a minute they were big with the right wing grifter crowd