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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

both sides are literally fascist. one is just covert about it.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You really should look up the definition of fascist, because you are using it wrong.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Which parts of the definition don't they meet?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's go with Umberto Eco's definition since it is well known and it is numbered for easy reference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism#Overview

The only part that might apply to Democrats is #6.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 13, and 14 all apply to the Democrats

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

From Wikipedia:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to Marxism, democracy, anarchism, pluralism, free markets, egalitarianism, communism, liberalism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

Democrats are right-wing, but not far-right. Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy. Democrats are not opposed to democracy, egalitarianism, or liberalism.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats are most definitely authoritarian and Ultranationalist. They are also hugely militarist and autocratic, as well as holding a strong belief in hierarchy. They're also opposed to democracy and egalitarianism.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

"Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in democracy, separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

Democrats do not reject political plurality.

Democrats do not reduce democracy (rather they increase it by defending voting rights).

Democrats protect the separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law.

Democrats do not fit the definition of nationalism, let alone ultranationalism.

They do not hold strong beliefs in hierarchy, oppose democracy, or oppose egalitarianism. That's just an outright lie.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy

guys, do i tell him?