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[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Russias killed far more than 12k, its well recorded there are mass graves in places such as Mariupol with a unknown number of bodies. The UN itself has specifically verified at least 30k and given the numbers of missing persons its likely to be in the hundreds of thousands.

Stop regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146842

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Russias killed far more than 12k, its well recorded there are mass graves in places such as Mariupol with a unknown number of bodies. The UN itself has specifically verified at least 30k and given the numbers of missing persons its likely to be in the hundreds of thousands.

Stop regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146842

From your own link, under "Millions displaced, thousands dead": "30,457 civilian casualties since 24 February 2022, including 10,582 killed and 19,875 injured" (emphasys mine).

I actually used a larger number I found in a different website (but I lost the link for that) because that latter article was from a later date and had the numbers for 3 years of war.

Apparently and in your own words, the UN is "regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers".

Whatever motivates you to post this, it ain't a need for Justice or an abhorrence for the murder of civilians.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Oh boo hoo I skim read something.

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-ukraine?enrollerid=101686 40k dead https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/over-12300-civilians-killed-since-start-ukraine-war-un-says-2025-01-08/ over 12k dead Possibly biased but state prosecutor of Ukraine estimates around 100k civilians dead https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-how-many-people-have-been-killed-since-putin-invasion-100628450.html https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/3/7496547/ https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240416-ukraine-identifies-37-000-people-missing-warns-figure-may-be-much-higher-war tens of thousands are confirmed missing, likely under reported.

And fuck you for the last line, I've actively fund raised for Ukraine and have donated to Ukrainian causes along with helping Ukrainian refugees.

You seem preoccupied gaining virtue points via shoving Palestine into every single discussion about Ukraine, when lets face it as much as I do feel for the Palestinians and what Israel is doing is abhorrent HAMAS did kill over a thousand people in cold blood along with repeatedly violating cease fires which lead to a (over)reaction.

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