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[–] zksmk@sopuli.xyz 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Antineutrinos don't interact with almost anything. They're just a bunch of wimps. They're harmless. Neat for mapping nuclear reactors tho.

[–] shortwizard@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

informative but the name-calling was uncalled for

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GenX scientists naming things. Was it a mistake? Maybe, but we’re having a laugh.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sonic the hedgehog protein has entered the chat

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

We can't just talk about the sonic hedgehog protein and not mention that the first sonic inhibitor found was named Robotnikinin

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago

Nothing personnel scientist

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How is the map data obtained?

Edit: Looked up the article. It seems they took known geological data and calculated the geo-antineutrino flux map based on measurements from detectors in Japan and Italy. Reactor antineutrinos are calculated from the international atomic energy agency data and assumptions on antineutrino rates.

In short, this is just a distance-from-nuclear reactors map

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago
[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But they don’t interact with anything so how are we detecting them I think is what he is asking.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They do interact with other stuff a little bit. It's very difficult to detect them because they hardly interact with anything, but it's not absolutely nothing so it's not impossible to detect them. This is well beyond my level of physics knowledge, but apparently one such interaction is a process called inverse beta decay. High-energy antineutrinos that crash in to protons produce a pair of particles that is much more easily detectable. A rule of physics called lepton conservation, which is about the fundamental building blocks of particles involved in a reaction not changing, makes this pair of detectable particles identifiable as being caused by an incoming antineutrino.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are these the same particles they are trying to detect with the big ice detector thingee in Antarctica

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Assuming you're referring to the IceCube neutrino observatory, yes (although I think it also does regular neutrinos, not just antineutrinos)

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

they do interact with matter, just incredibly weakly

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could these be used to locate nuclear submarines and the like?

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No. This is a map of estimated antineutrino rates generated from known data.

Data from a theoretical detector that can calculate where its detected neutrinos came from from could be compared to this to find anomalies, but we're not there yet

[–] zaplachi@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Probably not, unless the military is hiding some next level tech.

For example, the current generation of detectors, nearly all of which weigh upwards of a ton, have to be placed within tens of meters of a reactor’s core—inside a facility’s fence.

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/36

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

are you saying we're making dark matter here on earth

[–] zksmk@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a good question, but no. It was just a bit of word play.

Antineutrinos are not WIMPs. WIMPs are weakly interacting massive particles. Antineutrinos are anything but massive, they're almost massless, so massless that they were, for the longest time, thought to be massless. They can be a product of dark matter, as speculated, but they aren't it tho.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I thought so. I guess you could call them WILPs instead (Weakly Interacting Light Particles).