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[–] Nangijala 35 points 2 days ago (45 children)

I am hard side eyeing everyone who are pro abolishment of IP laws. You are either mindless consumers who have never spent time and effort creating anything yourselves your entire lives, or you haven't thought this through.

I hope for the latter.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I have spent time and effort creating things myself. Still think ip law is not entirely accomplishing what it should, which is protecting the interests of people producing intellectual works, preferably while they can still reap the benefits of said work and are not financially/socially stable. It seems it's basically working backwards, great for inheritors to make millions by doing nothing except owning some IPs but terrible at protecting the people who actually need it.

I also know a few people holding some important patents, and I guess the patent system is alright in comparison, at least in France, since it did actually protect their work while also allowing others to use it fairly and improve on it.

[–] Nangijala 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is definitely room for improvement when it comes to IP laws, but abolishing them entirely is not the win some people think it is.

[–] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only because you don't think big enough. The company that could "change their strategy to get around it" should be torn down with the IP law. Art shouldn't be a part of this discussion. Art shouldn't ever = food. Anyone trying to uphold a society where it does has already lost the plot

[–] Nangijala 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get that you see no value in art, but I thoroughly disagree with your views on that subject. You and i could have had an interesting discussion on how IP laws affects medicine but I'm not gonna have that with you since you are exactly the kind of person who has zero respect for people who make things.

[–] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You've completely missed my point. Art has massive value. You're the one who is so limited you only think in terms of commercial value. IP is wrong. It has no basis in reality. Art should only exist for the sake of itself, not it's resale value and people should not have to produce art to live. The way we construct our society where art has commercial value is perverse. You're right. We can't have a genuine discussion because we do not value human life equally. But I'm not the problem here

For the record I am an artist myself. I'm simply not disgusting enough to participate in such a vile system and call myself good. Either art exists to be shared and is owned by no one, or it exists for yourself and others "can't* take it. Anything else is unnatural abuse of your fellow man and using that abuse as your excuse to kill the poor is disgusting

Pretend we could have had an actual discussion all you want, you were never going to approach this subject with an open mind.

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