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Basically the title.

I have seen the EU-OS/Suse discussions for some months now. However, Ubuntu/Arch/Fedora are extremely mature projects. So competing against them will be hard.

I want to know how realistic the scenario (described by the question) is.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They can for red hat but canonical is (or at least I think it is) South African

Either way, it doesn't matter, it's open source software so we'll happily download it somewhere else. loads of distress to choose from

Trying to force other countries to comply? Well the US could do that 2 years ago but since Trump utterly obliterated all of its soft power it has no way of enforcing that beyond threatening with tarrics (and we all know how well that has worked) or a full on invasion which will be bad for said country but as soon as the inevitable body bags come crashing back into the country, it would kill this administration

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

canonical is (or at least I think it is) South African

Canonical is British. Headquarters are in London.

The founder, Mark Shuttleworth, is a South African born British citizen, hence the African name for the distro. But it is and always has been British.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I stand corrected!

[–] Kanedias@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but as soon as the inevitable body bags come crashing back into the country, it would kill this administration

No they won't. I've heard all kinds of stories like this for Putin and he's still alive and happy.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah no, Putin is a different story

He doesn't give a shit about dead soldiers in body bags. Almost noone in Russia sees that, or if they do they'll be told som lie about it. Its much simpler than in the US

You know what's not simpler? Demographics. As I recently read somewhere, demographics is like a freight train, slow, but all of the sudden you hear this horn bare and you're splattered under it.

Putin lost now about a million men of working age. That is a huge gash that will come back to haunt Russia. Not Putin, mind you, he'll be dead and gone within a few years. Russia, though, is thoroughly fucked for the next decades. It already has low population issues before, and their demographics chart at this point is a fucking rollercoaster. Their population is already relatively old, and with the loss of about a million men, in a country largely dependent on mineral extraction and sale, it will be ugly.

[–] Kanedias@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He's losing men over 50 years old that are left out and are garbage of society. They wouldn't be participating in any demographic activities anyway.

I bet there are millions of Americans like this too. Coal miners who lost the job, casino players, heavy drinkers. For a hefty sum of money and a chance to be important again they'd do anything. You really underestimate how quick they can be turned into a cannon fodder and how little the society will miss them.

Source: I lived in Russia.