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God, but this needs more awareness. There have even been studies of women's orgasm where they showed large gaps between penis in vagina only (lowest), penis in vagina AND man's hand rubbing, penis in vagina AND woman's hand rubbing, and penis in vagina AND man's hand rubbing being guided by woman's hand. The numbers were so far apart that it just blows my mind that anyone thinks penis in vagina alone is enough.
Yessss. The orgasm gap in general is so real and guys (not talking about OP specifically but just in general) are all like "this makes pp feel good so why you no cum yet?" Absolute zero fucks given about their female partners. Some women enjoy penetration and can cum from that alone, but I've had female partners that have lots of toys but no dildos because "why even bother" and that's so valid. Solo female masturbation is 9/10 in my experience clitoral, so idk why guys struggle to understand that in and out is only going to do so much for most women.
But you know how these wanton harlots are, enjoying things outside of missionary with their husband for the sole purpose of procreation. Disgusting! Brides of satan the lot of them.
I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's not so much that I don't understand it's just a shot to the ego every time I think about it and it sucks that there aren't a lot of options to get us both off at the same time (I know that's stupid but I can't help feeling that way. It's some kind of lizard brain thing I can't shut off). I was also with a woman who did get off on penetration for a long time and that was awesome so I sometimes find myself comparing what I'm missing out on now. Which again is shitty but I don't know how to stop.
Eh, my SO prefers PIV only. When I get the hands involved, they're over-stimulated. The best situation for us is PIV + hands on breasts, and bring that to pound town.
I was pretty surprised by this, since I've read online that many women actually don't like PIV that much. But after some experimentation, pound town it is 90% of the time (though I'll mix it up with some slow, sensual stuff to get them worked up before the main event).