Greentext

Yes, I agree that in healthy interactions subs should have the power and most doms are pretty flexible.

As I mentioned above, breath play is dangerous and imho too common considering how few people have any idea what they're doing.

I also agree regarding 50 shades. That dynamic is unhealthy and no one should have to experience that.

What I can say after experiencing both sides of casual and less casual encounters is that if I meet someone in a non kink bar and the extent of her kink is she wants me to verbally degrade her, I'm unfortunately unlikely to get a list of things she wants to be called. I can sit her down and have a conversation about it, but that's more likely to see her disinterested in speaking openly about it than asking something about it during the normal flow of the encounter. "Tell me how naughty you are" or whatever is more likely to illicit things she is comfortable being called than actually sitting her down to talk about it. In my experience, outside of the kink community, I've not seen people willing to have open and honest discussions about their kinks. In long term relationships it's different, but if I'm taking someone home and we're not expecting to be together for an extended period of time, I have not personally found it fruitful to attempt to invoke a paradigm shift regarding shame and power as it relates to sexuality. Maybe that's a me issue, but I'm not sure that it can be done that fast and I'm attempting to work within that framework. I would never physically restrain someone or engage in more serious play on a one off basis without having a serious discussion about it, but I don't think most people engaging in casual encounters go that far either.

I'm trying to meet society where it's at, and I'm not sure what the realistic alternative is. Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but imho casual subs will continue to try to find people who will engage with them the way they desire and it will continue to put them at risk until either they or casual doms get more serious about boundaries and consent. I do not see kink community norms making it to a more casual setting any time soon, so in the meantime I can only suggest stop gap measures. I'm not seeing a lot of what I would consider realistic advice for people who find themselves in that situation. I know plenty of het women who would prefer a few rougher than expected encounters than having to sit down and verbalize their sexual desires. I can tell them to get over that, or I can suggest that people doing the harm (engaging in rough sex without consent is harm regardless of if you THINK they want it or not) take responsibility as well. Ideally we see movement on both ends, but imho the het women are not actually doing harm. They are putting themselves in situations they know have the potential to be harmful, but they aren't DOING the harm. It their partners who are deciding the boundaries. I don't think they are purposefully harming people, but that's the outcome.