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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No idea about the context of this, and I refuse to read the article. The title strikes me as implying women wouldn't be able to win awards if the categories were unisex, which I don't agree with.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You assume an objective judgement; "if you're good, you'll succeed" (which goes straight into "see? they didn't win, that means they didn't deserve it"). The problem isn't that women aren't able to win, the problem is that the people in charge will just stop nominating women, let alone name them the winner. All of these people, in every field, everywhere, at the top, who do not have women among them, they do not care. There is money in not caring. They were not raised to care, and they raise no one to care. You have to force them.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand that, but I would counter:

  1. When no women won or were nominated it would reveal the bias and we could then make adjustments to the electors

  2. That bias would still exist if categories were segregated. Who is to say the best performers are actually winning? If they're willing to pass over a woman in favor of a man, then they're probably willing to pass over the deserving nominee in favor of another one they're biased towards - across the board.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We already know there's bias, and we already know the winner isn't always the one that deserves it. It's not just men and women categories - foreign films, animated films being the most noticable victims after gender. This is true for any award ceremony, sometimes it's more obvious that it's a PR stunt or a popularity contest more than actual recognition of the value of somebody's work. And no, the bias does not get addressed, even when we know it's there. At some point, a lot of viewers just assume that the ones that didn't win didn't deserve it, and the show moves on, because no one cares enough.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

The "Ensors", awards for the Flemish audiovisual sector introduced gender neutral awards last year.

Surprise, all awards went to men.

There's a huge inequality within the sector already, it's not surprising that that reflects in the awards given. It's the same as being surprised that the CEO of the year awards yet again goes to a rich white guy.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Without spoiling the show, get up to date with the show.