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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope because shouting racist shit in public is a hate crime how can these things actually be hard to understand, what are your thought pattern to reach the goal that it should be okay to shout racism openly and why would it? Ever? It's a hate crime because it leads to deaths for idiotic irrational reasons. What is so hard to understand, at what point did you confuse "openly" disliking pancakes or the president with openly fucking disliking everyone with other skin color??? like a idiotic shameful sad excuse for a person just openly hating a skin color??? Is that ever the same as openly opposing a war or something???? How is this confusing for you people

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Learn some reading comprehension before attacking someone.

I'm specifically saying that using language to intimidate someone based on their race isn't protected speech and can be considered a hate crime.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You are allowed to openly support racist ideals in public. Verbatim what you said. It is wrong. It is a hate crime

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bro if it was a hate crime to openly support racist ideals in public do you think the KKK and Nazis and whatever other hate groups would be able to march around in public espousing their horrendous views?

You are very much allowed to stand around with a Nazi flag and shout hateful shit into the air. It's when you start directing it at individuals and saying things that could be construed as a threat or hate speech that it becomes a problem.

For the most part though you're free to say and wear whatever you want for better or worse.

And listen, I wish it was a crime to openly support racist ideals in public but that's just not the country we are.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"bro" do you think this is the law everywhere in the world and does it maybe seem like it would be a good idea to?

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

No I don't think it's the case everywhere in the world. I think in the context of this post clearly I am talking about the United States of America.

I never said I'm cool with people doing it and I'm not opposed to more restrictions on hate speech in general but I didn't write our constitution.

[–] dtaylor84@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is not a crime to hold, or express, racist views.

It can be a crime to act on those views, harass someone with those views, etc.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Expressing them is acting on them. Americans are idiotic for thinking it is an "infringement" to prohibit and punish racists until they disappear and stay away from society. It is the fucking purpose of dissalowing hate crime in the first place.

[–] dtaylor84@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idiotic or not, it is the law.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 hours ago

Yeah most of the world see waving a nazi flag as a hate crime because of the symbol of killing a certain race. It is folly to play stupid and pretend it infringes on the agressors rights, they are infringing on people with hate and it's really really really easy to distinguish in all courts except it seems the us