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[–] brianary@startrek.website 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Straw men? You understand that these are actually things that are really happening, right?

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes I do, but neither I nor the meme is claiming "both sides are the same" nor that any of this would have happened if Kamala had won:

Kamala Harris would undoutable be accepting open bribes for the Qatari government of a 747 jumbo jet which she’d still own personally after her term in office. I’m sure we’d also be stocked up on KAMALACOIN too. The HARRIS GOLD CARD for immigration preferential treatment would certainly have happened. Canada, Europe, and our other allies around the world would absolutely still be citing and recognizing the end of American leadership around the world. Tim Walz would have demanded Zelensky say “thank you” to Harris during their White House meeting.

You are dropping this as some kind of gotcha, when it refutes no claim I have made.

 

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I do, but not neither I nor the meme is claiming “both sides are the same”

The very first sentence in your meme literally has these words in this order:

"Democrats like Joe Biden are the same as Republicans"

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

And by the criteria used for the study, their attitudes and values don't substantially differ. That's the point of the article, and is a distinctly different statement than "both sides are the same" - because there is a spectrum of folks on that "side" as I outlined in another reply.

Here is the article shown in the meme: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/biden-moderate-democrats-republicans-conservative-study-john-kasich-aoc-a9699431.html

Here is a snippet of that article:

Our findings show that concerns about political moderates — and specifically politically moderate men — are not unfounded. As America battles a global pandemic and an economic collapse and reckons with systemic racism, IDEALS suggests that moderate men may be the least likely to make a positive difference.

When broken down by political leaning, IDEALS found that moderate male students in their senior year were time and again the least likely, or among the least likely, to somewhat or strongly agree with the following statements:

And here is the table they are referring to in that quote:

Also thank you for not making a deal out of my typo, which I will now go correct.