this post was submitted on 24 May 2025
496 points (97.3% liked)

Games

39217 readers
1865 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It would also be great if devs added things during development that should simply be there at launch. Instead of that, shit gets rushed out the door with promises of future fixes and updates. And then devs get all huffy when people rightfully ask for things to be added that are supposed to be basic launch features…

[–] Goronmon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What I don't understand is why do developers make bad games? They should just make good games instead.

Gamers want good games, not bad games.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The developers aren't in charge of what's in the game, the PMs and accountants are

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

To be fair, the Prime Ministers should really be focused on more important things than a game companies software development.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yess. I boggles me that the narrative is still "devs this, devs that". It doesn't take becoming a game dev to understand that actual software developers are not calling shots on plot twists, monetisation model and so forth. Like, what the hell is wrong with people babbling about devs?

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, the fact is that there are also a LOT of dumb customers willing to buy crap. God knows why.

Just look at the trending / best selling lists on Steam. There’s shit on there that I wouldn’t play if you paid me. Yet somehow there’s enough of a customer base for that that they sell it.

Honestly, Steam should look into setting a minimum quality level for things sold on the platform.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, the fact is that there are also a LOT of dumb customers willing to buy crap.

As much as everyone love Oblivion...it all started from there with the $9 horse armour DLC.

God knows why.

Yet somehow there’s enough of a customer base for that that they sell it.

Kids. Fucking kids. Thankfully I am never that stupid to buy individual DLCs even when I was a child, which is compounded by familial circumstances and education, but kids will be kids. Either they stole their parent's credit card to pay for useless virtual items, or they were spoiled and never taught with financial literacy.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

horse armor that didnt even add armor to horses (edit. Functional armor, before someone ACKSHUALLY's me :p)

It just, iirc, 3x'd the horses base health.

I am still salty about that shit to this day, because its what lead us to the miseryscape of nickle and dimed bullshit we have today.

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

supposed to be basic launch features

isn't this very subjective and dependent on the game and scale of success?

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with the sentiment, but I don't know Helldivers 2 -- what basic launch features were/are missing?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a strong argument that the server architecture needed to be better at launch, but then the game sold more than an order of magnitude better than it was expected to, so no one would have noticed that it scaled badly had the player count been in line with their design and testing.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ah yeah that's a tricky one. I guess as developers we'd all like to be ambitious and plan for millions of users but that sort of hardware and architecture takes time and money that might not be realistically in the budget/scope.

I've also not really got insight as to who would have a say on that kind of hardware, whether that's PMs or devs. Probably higher-ups, right?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think for something like this, you'd rent cloud servers as you'd expect the number of concurrent users to change over time and ideally would be able to spin up more capacity when you need it without having to have those machines available all the time. You still need some kind of system that decides when to order more capacity with enough warning that it's actually available (you can tell AWS you want a VM immediately, but it still takes a couple of minutes to transfer your data onto it and boot it up, which is longer than people want to sit in a loading screen) and decides which servers to assign to which users.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting!

What kind of system would allow for that? Would queueing help?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I'm not the right kind of software engineer to answer in more detail than that.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Fair! I'm in web so wouldn't know either. What kind of software do you work in? I've been thinking about jumping careers lately after realising that I quite like architecting a more complex system, and sort of hate working with front end web dev😂