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Israeli foreign minister says arms embargoes will lead to 'second Holocaust' and end of Israel
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I'm firmly against the Palestinian genocide, but, isn't this a little ridiculous? Shouldn't we just focus on ending the killings and stopping further colonization?
Like, as a 4th generation Canadian, do I need to go back to Ireland to make up for my great great grandparent's generation's gross history of colonial genocide?
You don't need to evict Jewish people to end Zionism.
Thats just flatly not realistic. Polling shows that Israelis on average are entitled, racist and violent. A plurality of them want every non jewish person expelled from Israel, citizen or not. And 47% of them want every Gazan killed, no matter their innocence. about 80% think the way the war is being executed in Gaza is just and should continue. They are fine with war crimes.
Its easy to conclude that they will not live in peace with anyone if they feel they control any state apparatus.
The difference is that there are quite a lot of Palestinians alive today who had their homes stolen, and Israel keeps stealing more everyday. And they do it because they have always been allowed to keep what they stole in the past.
Yeah, so give Palestinians right of return. There's plenty of land there to share. Make Israelis pay reparations.
Like how is the land I'm living on not functionally stolen? My entire country used to be Indigenous land, and it became as it is because it was "allowed" (forced).
The Jewish children who were born there aren't colonists, and they shouldn't have to suffer for their parents' colonial acts.
The main imperative is to end the ongoing colonialism and genocide.
That would require expelling a huge number of Israelis, given they literally live in stolen houses. One in every ten Israelis lives in illegal West Bank settlements
That would require defeating Israel in a war.
It is, but at least you didn't literally steal your literal house from a person who is still alive today..
And the Israeli colonists currently driving people out of their houses to take them over and have children there know that you think this, which is why they're stealing land in such a way as to make a Palestine state impossible without kicking them out.
Which is impossible while the illegal settlements remain.
have you not seen the Greater IsraEl map? They plan to take farrrr more land, and will return nothing.
Its really not ridiculous. Imagine if the west still kept all its african colonies that were captured during WW2 times. Thats what Israel is, only that it is even younger. Basically all of its jewish population is either first or second generation immigrants/settlers.
I think you're misunderstanding their point, it's very different from African colonies because the entirety of their country isn't made up of children of refugees.
Their point is a fair one that you didn't address at all, are you really expecting them all to move somewhere else? How is that at all feasible in your mind? I'm American, I have no fucking clue where I "came from" if someone said the US needs to broken up and sent back to where they "came from".
I think the recency of your countries colonization does make a big difference. The US is 250 years old, Israel is 77 years old.
25% of Israelis are fresh settlers that were born elsewhere (so they know where they came from)
Most of the rest have parents that are also settlers
The entire concept of Israel is to be an ever growing colony which spends billions of dollars trying to convince every jewish person in the world that Israel is the only place in the world where they are safe. As a consequence Israels population has grown 900% since its inception and that growth has only been accelerating. The vast majority of Israelis are not refugees, they are religiously attracted. The official plan of the settlers is to colonize the entire region including Lebanon, the West Bank and parts of Syria.
People really need to understand that this crisis is entirely manufactured and intended. The only solution is the dissolution of the Israeli government and a complete change of course. The Israeli population will never do that, because they support the genocide so that only leaves heavy sanctions on Israel or invasion.
Interesting data, and to be clear I'm not advocating for anything Israel is doing
If you wanna understand more about how they get so many young people to move to Israel (especially from the US) i recommend this documentary that talks a lot about Israels "outreach programs" (read ideological/military recruitment programs) that embed themselves into schools and universities to intercept jewish kids before they make any contact with people critical of Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq6J7Q6L0yw
For comparison Israel vs German Age distribution which says a lot by itself
Man how is it that it's always the fucking worst people who get into power.
Edit: Just finished fully, very informative and interesting thanks for sharing!
That Israeli age distribution chart is a nightmare in progress and it will come back to haunt them.
Sis... do you think Ireland had colonies?