Sometimes I have the misfortune of working with python code written by someone else and I wonder how a language like this became anything more than a scripting language

[–] addie@feddit.uk 36 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I feel that Python is a bit of a 'Microsoft Word' of languages. Your own scripts are obviously completely fine, using a sensible and pragmatic selection of the language features in a robust fashion, but everyone else's are absurd collections of hacks that fall to pieces at the first modification.

To an extent, 'other people's C++ / Bash scripts' have the same problem. I'm usually okay with 'other people's Java', which to me is one of the big selling points of the language - the slight wordiness and lack of 'really stupid shit' makes collaboration easier.

Now, a Python script that's more than about two pages long? That makes me question its utility. The 'duck typing' everywhere makes any code that you can't 'keep in your head' very difficult to reason about.

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

other people's Java

I'm gonna have to disagree here, it's always a guessing game of how many layers of abstraction they've used to seemingly avoid writing any implementation code... Can't put the code related to "bicycles" in the Bicycle class, no, that obviously goes in WheeledDeviceServiceFactoryBeanImpl that's in the 'utils' package.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Enough of that crazy talk - plainly WheeledDeviceServiceFactoryBeanImpl is where the dependency injection annotations are placed. If you can decide what the code does without stepping through it with a debugger, and any backtrace doesn't have at least two hundred lines of Spring boot, then plainly it isn't enterprise enough.

Fair enough, though. You can write stupid overly-abstract shit in any language, but Java does encourage it.

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