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[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Housing, rehabilitating and educating homeless people costs the same or less than funding their persecution, prosecution and incarceration while solving the problem instead of perpetuating it

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

The people doing this enjoy the cruelty, they feel those that fall through the cracks should be smashed, and when those bodies cleared, the next slightly less poor group will be crushed

again and again

Until it's only the ultra wealthy being served by the grateful remainders of every other class who they deign to allow to survive

Just like the plan

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

and the business is the one deciding these things?

Like. I get it.

The way we treat homeless people sucks in this country.

It shouldn't be that way. But the business isn't the one setting those policies here. That's on LA and the CA governments. And while yes, some of the business interests are voicing opinions here... the barber shop and the landlords here aren't big enough to have any pull. Many are just looking for ways to end it... and would fully support doing housing-first strategies and all that. (because they work.)

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Businesses just bought the election for the fucking president. They can buy policy that helps humans.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You think every business wanted Trump?

C’mon. That was a relatively few, large, businesses. Be realistic. The barber that’s looking at losing his business, the others in that building had to leave or close.

The landlord, who can’t get tenants to move in.

They probably weren’t trumpers anymore than you were, and I doubt very much they would resist an actual solution to the problems they’re facing.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Landlords can suck my ass.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are enough idiots complaining now in a variation of "I support Trump but I didn't think the tariffs/deportations would hurt my business"

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. Because an infinitesimally small number of business owners say so, all business owners must.

There’s over 4.2 million small businesses in CA alone.

Most of which are owned and operated by totally normal, not-awful people.

I can’t know their politics and neither can you.

What I can tell you is that cities across the country are fucking up the crisis and leaving everyone else involved in a lurch. The homeless people themselves are the most obvious and most needy, don’t get me wrong.

But the current situation is also impacting businesses, causing them to either move away or close as people stop shopping.

City and state governments are fucking it up. Not the fucking barber who probably is a member of that community just trying to earn a living. Not the others who had already left or closed and were also part of the community, probably.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Those blasting baby shark 24/7 as a "solution" to the homeless problem may or may not have voted for Trump, but in using legalistic cruelty to try to "solve" problems Trump and them are 100% in alignment.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Small-business owners are a major force behind the U.S. swing vote. Nearly a quarter are registered Democrats and 38% are Republicans, according to the National Small Business Association’s 2024 Politics of Small Business Survey

Small-business owners’ support for Trump was based, in large part, on opposition to the current regulatory regime.

In addition to promising a lighter regulatory touch, Trump campaigned on lowering taxes, which small business applauds.

source

Doesn't sound like an infinitesimally small number of business owners.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Every small business I've been exposed to has been more than happy to exploit their employees. Small places with Less than 10 employees or large regional chains with a few thousand.

Doesn't matter if they're ostensibly 'liberal' (read:pro corporate). The owners still support Republican policies because they like the deregulation and salivate at the degradation of labor rights.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

“I support Trump but I didn’t think the tariffs/deportations would hurt my business”

is what the infinitesimal portion is about. Only a very, very small sliver of absolute morons are saying that. Everyone else knew exactly what was going to happen and what impacts it would have.

thanks for a source showing business owners mostly reflect the rest of society, though.

[–] Vegasvator@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Costs the same? The price of a speaker and mp3 player on loop is a lot cheaper than rehabilitation and educating homeless people. What should the business be doing was the question. Not what should the government and society as a whole be doing.