At a time when our government is increasingly fascist and it's clear they want to eliminate classes of people, I'm thinking the wrong people have been buying the guns.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Armed people cannot defend themselves against the logistics of any organised force.

What people with guns can do against fascism is hide & covertly attack guerrilla/terrorist style so that the confrontation doesn't allow oppressing force to use it's force/time/reach/etc.

I do not mean that as a bad or un-heroic thing, just as the last resort of protest.

But this situation would not turn out any better had there been more guns involved. Only in case of 0 guns the situation might have been better.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Oh yeah, good luck fighting the army with your handguns.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You don't overthrow armies by lining up and going toe-to-toe.

A handgun is concealable. If we need guns, we need to appear anonymous until we're using them up close.

And you don't target soldiers. You target those behind them.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We need to widely allow handguns because of all the progress that's constantly made from assassinating politicians with handguns?

Please do list all the politicians assassinated by handguns and how much progress that made. I'll follow with a list of activists murdered by handguns.

Let's see whose is longer.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the thing about guns. They're evil until they're necessary. But then they're essential.

We still aren't at the point where we need to start using them en masse, but we've never been closer as a nation, and it's absolutely time to start learning how to use them.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Please cite the incidents in which owning a personal pistol has been essential and why. I will follow with a list of political activists who have been assassinated with pistols owned by idiots.

Let's see whose is longer.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree; the laws need to be relaxed to allow full auto sales.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lmfao, enjoy the half second you have firing a tommy gun in the air before an ai drone with an anti tank mine zip tied to it blows to pieces you and everyone you love.

Civil wars are not won by cowards carrying pistols at walmart. They're mostly won by external governments supplying one side with insurmountable fire power and sometimes won by using tactics and strategy to win the hearts and minds of people and rally them to you.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago

Yeah, a family with all the guns doesn't stand a chance against a few musket-wielding soldiers - they can just outwait them around the house.

It's not a 5 minute fight when you are dealing with an organised force. Civilians will fold after a week without supermarket access/water/electricity/food.