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  • Elon Musk said SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft “immediately” because of threats by Donald Trump to cancel government contracts with Musk’s businesses.
  • Musk’s announcement on his social media site X escalated a war of words with Trump that began after the Tesla CEO criticized the major tax bill being pushed by the Republican president.
  • A SpaceX Dragon capsule brought two NASA astronauts back to Earth in March after they were stranded for months at the International Space Station by a Boeing Starliner capsule.
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[–] Womble@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Falcon9 bring the cost of launching something to LEO down by an order of magnitude?

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plus without SpaceX, our only ride to space would be the Soyuz

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not aware of any human rated spacecraft being launched with Ariane. I know there were some concepts for at least Ariane 5, and it would be cool for Europe to be independent on this.

Ariane has an astronaut ferry and reentry vehicle? That's news to me. Also: they're more than 2x as expensive per kg to orbit.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Soooooo... Kind of...

I didn't check the cargo numbers but for Crewed missions we have some nice estimates from the OIG in 2024 based on the crew program development costs and the built-in 6 flight missions we got for the contracts:

-SpaceX Dragon ~ 55 million/seat

-Boeing Starliner ~ 90 million/seat

-Russia Soyuz ~ 86 million/seat

-Space Shuttle ~ 87 million/seat (adjusted for inflation)

Soyuz was ~ 20 million a seat in 2007, 2013 it was ~ 55 million a seat, and 2014-2018 it was 62 million a seat, now it's that 86 number.

Funny thing is happening at SpaceX recently, namely NASA used up all 6 flights that were 55 million a seat, so they needed to extend for flights 7-9 and 10-14

In February 2022 NASA Extended their contract with SpaceX for flights 7-9 at around 258 million per flight (so ~64.5 million per seat) and again in June 2022 for flights 10-14 at 288 million per flight (so ~72 million per seat)

So SpaceX came out of the gate with their handfuls of investor cash and subsidized the original contracts, but they're likely rapidly increasing prices now that they've burned through most of that runway.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wasnt really thinking about crewed mission tbh, more the cost per tonne which Space X certainly brought down dramatically (though not quite by an order of magnitude).