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Nattapong Pinta, a Thai agricultural worker, was abducted during the October 7, 2023, Hamas-led attack on Kibbutz Nir Oz and later murdered by the Mujahideen Brigades, a lesser-known Palestinian militant group, highlighting the diverse terror networks active in Gaza beyond Hamas.

The recovery of Pinta’s body in Rafah by Israeli forces, as reported by Defense Minister Israel Katz on June 7, 2025, underscores the ongoing complexity of hostage situations, with data from the UN OCHA indicating over 54,000 Palestinian deaths since the conflict escalated, reflecting the scale of violence.

The incident challenges narratives of a singular "jihadist brutality" by revealing multiple actors, while historical context from Wikipedia notes that Palestinian militant infiltration and violence have roots in the 1950s, evolving with groups like Hamas using suicide bombings to derail peace processes since the 1990s.

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But what exactly does that mean in this case? Like, what is the end result that you're hoping would become reality.

A one state solution would be the best solution. If not a two state solution, the problem with the two state solution is that Israel will kick out Arab Israelis from Israel and settlers will be kicked out from the west bank

But we're not talking about legality, we're talking about the morality of using terrorism as a mean of achieving anything. The principle holds true regardless of conflict.

Morality say that we should support the oppressed side . We can hold anybody who is responsible of war crimes and terrorists accountable once occupation end from both side

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A one state solution would be the best solution. If not a two state solution, the problem with the two state solution is that Israel will kick out Arab Israelis from Israel and settlers will be kicked out from the west bank

Oh, that is a good point. It's crazy to think about, but a population exchange will end up displacing around 3 million people.

The issue with the one state solution is that both sides reject living along side each other, let alone under the rule of the other. In order for a one state solution to work, both need to be able to accept coexistence and support full rights for all, but that's a tall order considering how much they hate each other.

I think we're heading towards a single Israeli state that encompasses all the territory regardless. I just hope that the Israeli left will win out and use the country's democratic institutions to push giving the Palestinians they annexed or will annex their full rights, and by doing so hopefully make the Palestinian population abandon the militant groups.

Morality say that we should support the oppressed side. We can hold anybody who is responsible of war crimes and terrorists accountable once occupation end from both side

I disagree. Morality isn't about supporting sides, it's about rejecting harmful behaviors universally. For example, we can both agree that Palestinians in Gaza are oppressed. But these people are facing layers oppression. Israel is oppressing them with an ethnic cleansing campaign, Egypt is adding on to it by helping enforce the blockade, Hamas and the other militant groups inside Gaza are piling on the oppression by ruling the strip with tyranny. These are all parties responsible for an immoral injustice against the same people, yet they are enemies. Supporting one over the other instead of opposing all of them is just helping perpetuate a cycle of oppression. What these people need is a clean slate, not a slightly less oppressive slate.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Even in case of a two state solution. Israel and palestine land is all connected nothing separate them. If you believe the two population don't want peace then violence will still continue regardless of if it is a one state or two state

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean that is the case, at least per the polling. I wonder what the right path would be to deradicalize two populations that hate each other.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 15 hours ago

A good Truth and Reconciliation plan like in any other major conflict