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I'm curious what you think the greatest story ever is. I hope it's not The Bible.
Ironic comment, since Dune’s story is supernatural nonsense written by a misogynistic homophobe who probably does think the Bible is the greatest book of all time.
I'd not looked into Frank before now, but I've read 2.5 of the dune books. It's weird to see he was a self described conservative and libertarian. The whole dune story seems to mock everything he stands for politically. It's like he was completely unaware of the power structures he was writing about exist across all US (and non-US) political parties.
The story glorifies a eugenically engineered monarchy and waxes poetic about the evils of homosexuality.
Yeah, but that isn't why people like it. Like Harry potter and Wizarding world of the transphobe.
You expressed surprise that Herbert is a rabid conservative. I pointed out that the book you claim to like is a celebration of fascism.
Correct. People like Dune because it’s the biggest book they’ve read, not because they were paying attention to the prose or narrative quality of its insane plot.
The storyline is a fascism. Frank thought libertarianism would stop what he was writing about. He didn't want fascism but wrote about it. The second book is mostly about Paul falling apart and dying. Even though he thought he could follow a perfect path to being a perfect leader.
I personally don't care much about literary complexity. I find it interesting, and that's all that matters to me. If you disagree, that's fine too.
Fair enough. I don’t begrudge your enjoyment.