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If your phone is powered your location can be tracked. Secured or not: your location can always be tracked.
The rest is doubtful, always assume law enforcement has access at will.
Just don't bring it.
doesn't have to be powered on.
unless you can remove the battery, it should stay at home.
Source? EFF says airplane mode is sufficient per the article
so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
What government funding does the EFF take in?
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/electronic-frontier-foundation-eff/
Oh rly? Influence Watch, from the CRC?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Research_Center
I didn't know that. interesting for sure though.
so what benefit would the eff gain by going against the hands that feed it? and the detriments?
So first, even here we see foundation money and big tech, not government.
Facebook, Google, etc mostly love net neutrality, tolerate encryption, anf see utility in anonymous internet access, mostly because these things don't interfere with their core advertising businesses, and generally have helped them. I didn't see Comcast and others in the ISP oligopoly on that list, probably because they would not benefit from net neutrality, encryption, and privacy for obvious reasons.
The EFF advocates for particular civil libertarian policies, always has. That does attract certain donors, but not others. They have plenty of diverse and grassroots support too. One day they may have to choose between their corpo donors and their values, but I have yet to see them abandon principles.
Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
I tend to agree (and also an EE). Airplane mode isn't a total panacea, though. It just disables the cellular radio. While it also disables the Wifi and Bluetooth, those can always be turned back on, even while Airplane Mode is active. A motivated state actor can absolutely track via Wifi or Bluetooth. (Possibly even NFC, but the range on that is so low that I think it would impossible to do without seeing what is tracking you).
Turning the phone off is the best solution if you want to keep rhe phone on your person. Guaranteed that all possible avenues for tracking is off, and also has the advantage that even if the phone is seized, the latest phone OSes require the passcode before doing anything at all when they first power up. Even the Police are limited in the data they can get off a phone that has just powered up and is asking for the passcode.
cool. you do you then.
I'll keep doing whatever I need to ensure my freedom by not trusting government or corporate guidelines.