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[–] tal@lemmy.today 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

If Google really wants to, they can crack down on yt-dlp, and I assume that if enough people are using it, they're likely to do such a crackdown. Like, this works for the moment, but...

[–] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago

I'm sure they could. Other methods will crop up. All else fails, I ditch YT altogether.

[–] rumba@piefed.zip 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It will happen eventually. All they need to do is start new/rotating keys on wildvine and put the ads at random times right in the stream, then disable fast forward if you use it to skip ads. It'll be a UX hit, so it'll need to be worth it to them.

In the end, they can't stop us from HDMI capturing and using comskip to detect / remove but there are a million ways to play tag between where we are now and that which don't require people posting videos to pirate bay :)

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

can't stop us from HDMI capturing

Look up HDCP.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

There are HDMI splitter boxes you can get from China that conveniently strip out the HDCP.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's not hard to do it yourself either

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How would one DIY HDCP stripping? I've never looked into this.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Open PassDCP software is one method, or you can obtain a splitter that strips hdcp

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

strip out the HDCP

Interesting, I had figured that was possible in principle but hadn't kept up with what was actually around.

But still, the HDCP stream is decompressed video, so if you want to save it, you'll have to either put it through yet another layer or lossy compression, or burn a ridiculous amount of disk space compared to the compressed stream that Youtube sent to your computer.

We'll see how things go. Google in the past has made occasional modest gestures to get in the way of downloading, but they haven't made serious effort to prevent it. Who knows whether that will last.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago

It's certainly not an ideal solution, but it's an option that will usually work.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

They aren't fool proof, and relatively easy to detect from the source.

Source: high end AV tech for like half a decade

[–] rumba@piefed.zip 2 points 6 days ago

I break HDCP right now. Those keys have been leaked for AGES. $10 amazon HDMI copy in between your videocard and the capture.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Virtual desktop program that watches videos and uses sponsorblock and adblock after the fact to pick it clean and re-encode it.

I'm that level of anal

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

I'm not really following video DRM, but my understanding is that Widevine won't run in a VM with a virtualized video card like that.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My ip was blocked a LONG time ago by google for using yt-dlp. Works with VPN but nothing else. Fun times. I think I only pulled a couple of videos off for archival services. On my own channel non-the-less.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You might try again. I was blocked for a couple weeks after I pulled a bunch of videos from a channel using yt-dlp, and for a while YouTube required an account (which I will not get) from that IP. But a couple weeks later, things were working again.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 6 days ago

Ok cool! I updated yt-dlp via pip, and it looks like its working again. No warnings or anything. Awesome.

I'd just hop a vps around to different countries.

...I'd never do it here, admins, honest lol

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

theoretically anything is possible so what

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Right. At the end of the bullshit, the content still plays to completion if the user hits play. We can script and Ai and remove ads all day long after a program snags the feed.