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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, Marx said Capitalism was a necessary stage of Socialism. It's not that it dies, it's necessary and becomes Socialism.

Marx for instance would have disagreed with Mao/China's initial attempt to jump straight to Socialism... And that mistaken attempt was born out by history (as being a mistake), as it ultimately failed, and China had to open its self to becoming a Socialist Market Economy (in order to make up for its missing the Capitalist steps of becoming inevitably a Socialist society).

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a letter towards the end of his life where he speculates about Russia, specifically, skipping the capitalist stage because of cultural reasons.

Arising from a capitalist and industrial system is less of a requirement and more of what he considers to be the most likely scenario. You could, for example, in theory have a peasant revolution but you'd either need to attract industrial expertise to modernize your factories or reinvent a lot of wheels.

And, of course, Marxism isn't the only socialism.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Marx is kinda hilarious, bad father, vaguely antisemitic, bet on the stock market. Funny guy. I love that conservatives are so freaked out by him.