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[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have seen articles and discussions about all of those items multiple times. We've known trump was an associate of Epstein for how many years? 20? 30? The problem is that there's literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything unless the person being held accountable is just a regular person living paycheck to paycheck.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

there's literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything

There is, it's voting.

The problem is that democracy relies on voters being informed. Aside from being racist, sexist and classist, one reason that the US founding fathers initially limited voting to white male land-owners is that they thought they would be educated and knowledgeable. In 2025 we're in a situation where any US citizen over 18 gets to vote, regardless of knowledge or education. At least half the country is buried under an avalanche of disinformation and propaganda, so the system that should hold people accountable for things is broken because nobody can agree on even the most basic facts.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Mostly agree, but the Epstein bit gave me pause. Did anything new come to light recently?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Elon and Trump had their little fight and Elon brought up Epstein then apologized.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

His big "bombshell" was just

"Trump is in the Epstien files!!"

Yeah. No shit bud. We've had photos of them together for decades, that's obviously the reason he hasn't released the file.

Musk seriously thinks everyone in the entire world except for him has the intelligence of a washed up ketamine addict.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I don't believe so. Looking at the released evidence, it doesn't seem to really say more than what everyone has known for years. That Epstein had contact information for a lot of people and a lot of people flew on his plane.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Sure there is. There's more of you than there is of them.