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A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Uh huh, because there's no genocide happening in or helped by America.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Whataboutism is not an argument. Also two things can be bad at once, this is not a zero sum game.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

1: Whataboutism is a disputed fallacy specifically because dorks like you will screech about pointing out any form of hypocrisy even in discussions on comparative morality and ethics. It is in this manner its own form of thought terminating cliche.

2: What nation is this post about?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure how that's relevant, but I disagree.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

So you've got two genocidal states, one has healthcare (that actually does apply to Uyghurs because it's a cultural genocide/slavery thing not an extermination) and the other wants to start WW3.

Why is the first a shit hole comparable to America? They're clearly different tiers of fascist states. Everyone not a fascist state>China>Shitholes like America

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad you thoroughly understand the concept of "the lesser evil"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

There's no such thing as a lesser evil, just priorities.

When there's an evil I can do something about and see firsthand and evil I can't, I don't spend a whole lot of personal effort virtue signaling about the second type when the first is happening down the street.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you don't believe in lesser evil like you just said, and you think China is fascist like you just implied, why say "at least ~~the trains run on time~~ they have healthcare"?

It sounds like the kind of virtue signaling you disapprove of.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

A fascist state that treats its in-group better isn't less evil than one that doesn't, it just shows that their in-group at least gets some benefits from their obedience to the state.

If you're going to sell your soul you might as well not be a cheap yet eager purchase, the kind of person that posts an article about America's decline and then goes "at least it's not as bad as this country I've never been to!"

That'd just be fucking embarrassing.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Organ harvesting doesn't count as healthcare

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Someday you'll figure out what it means that even the Uyghurs hearing about what American healthcare is actually like are shocked that it isn't propaganda.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"My dad's genocide is more moral than your dad's genocide!"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's why they have to put "cultural" in front of it, yeah.

Feel free to explain to a deliberately starved to death Gazan child who saw their dad killed in the street for his property by Israeli soldiers who posted it to YouTube why their situation is just as bad as a Uyghur kid going to a state run propaganda farm I guess.