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[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 201 points 6 days ago (131 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago (6 children)

"Modularity" but still no headphone jack, couldn't I just have a backplate with a big bump on it to accommodate a 3.5mm jack?

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Big? The headphone jack is not large enough to protrude from a cell phone chassis. Any company telling you they can't fit it is just lying to sell you BT headphones.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about the internal connectors of the headphone jack?

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’m assuming they are removing the headphone jack cause the internal components take up too much space. I can’t imagine these companies removing the jacks cause they cost too much money.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're vastly overestimating the space required for a 3.5mm jack, and the reasons for its removal.

The jack takes up some internal space, but not much at all. The components required internally like the DAC chip are insignificant. It is a potential source of water ingress, but that can be mitigated and has been done many times before.

The reason for removal is two fold, first you simply don't have to deal with any of the above, so from an engineering perspective it's always easier to not do something. The second, and most important, **is to sell wireless headphones. **

You'll notice that Fairphone came out with their own earbuds at the same time they removed the headphone jack. You could of course use Bluetooth headphones with the Fairphone 1, 2, and 3, but you weren't forced to think about it and could just use your existing headphones. Removing the jack ads inconvenience and breaks user habit, causing people to re-evaluate their headphones and consider a new purchase, which the manufacturer just happens to have and likely in a bundle deal.

Apple, Google, and Samsung have seen huge uplift in earbud sales with the removal of the jack. So the anger of some power users is of no consequence to them. Seeing Fairphone follow in this behaviour what's disappointing.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

I made the mistake of believing that Fairphone is an enthusiast company, like the Framework of phones maybe. There is some overlap, sure, with the repair-ability aspect and available parts and schematics, but that's about it.

Other than that, FP wants to be a mainstream brand, the eco-friendly Samsung or Apple; the power users can get shafted with their audio jacks for all they care. While Framework has actual hardware modularity and release updated HW modules so you don't buy the whole device again for an upgrade.

Looking at FP's financial statements, I get the impression they aren't doing too hot lately, so I get it if they need bigger margins to continue operating. Just don't be a fucking hypocrite and lie about the reason of the jack removal ffs.

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