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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Democrats had the opportunity to pass voter protections.

They considered the filibuster to be more important.

They have filibustered none of trump's agenda.

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 day ago

Even when Dems have had a majority in both houses and the presidency they only ever pass laws that enrich themselves & their donors. Much the same as the rest of the world in 2025.

Ordinary people need to start arming themselves and dragging the rich & their puppets from their comfy homes before we get any meaningful improvement in our societies. Their life of luxury should only be possible when all our needs are taken care of first.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can't filibuster executive orders.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And has all of trump's agenda been executive orders? The continuing resolution schumer caved on? The vote to thank ICE?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So we agree they should've done away with the filibuster?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but that would have affected virtually nothing Trump has done since gaining office again.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mostly yes, but the point is that the filibuster is/was their excuse for not doing shit to help the people when they could. DNC party hacks like to say "but they didn't have a filibuster-proof majority!!!" when people point out that the DNC has done exactly zilch to remedy America's long-term problems, so it's important to remember that keeping the filibuster was a choice by the DNC made for that purpose.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The last time the Dems had a filibuster proof trifecta, it was for about 2 months and they passed Obamacare. The Repubs spent the next decade trying to break it. The Democrats have a lot of issues, but they are NOT the major problem here.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, they passed Obamacare, a Republican policy thought up by Heritage Foundation. Also note that they only passed the ACA when they should've damn near rebuilt the country from scratch. If this is the kind of policy Americans can expect when the Democrats have a trifecta and a massive grassroots movement, then you're basically making my point for me, but that's beside the point. The bigger problem is that they kept the filibuster and keep keeping the filibuster when they could've abolished it twice. Keeping the filibuster is a choice, so the whole talk about a filibuster-proof majority is nothing more than "sorry I shot myself in the foot so I can't come help you even though it's literally my job, now give me more money".

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

IIRC, the Democrats used the filibuster more during Trump's first term than the Republicans did during Obama's second term. It is a highly flawed tool, but it does have its uses. Yeah, we are going to be able to pass more things we want, but so will the opposition.

I think we should get rid of the filibuster because it has allowed the Executive to take more power. That doesn't mean it will be entirely positive. It might even be a net negative. Remember that we got rid of the filibuster for supreme court appointments and that is what allowed the Republicans to take a supermajority there.