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[โ€“] delcaran@feddit.it 19 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Dev here. It's not a challenge.

  • you make one last patch to the game that enables the user to change the address of the servers required (for authentication or whatever).
  • you release the server for free.

This way you are not losing money (you are not making any either, but that's why we are here) and the users can install the game and the required components to run it.

The most "challenging" thing you must do, on the server or in the game, is eventually authorized everyone, but I can't see this as a challenge...

[โ€“] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (12 children)

you release the server for free

Thatโ€™s easier said than done. The server side software might rely on proprietary software. Releasing the server side software can be a legal licensing nightmare.

Also, the software might make many assumptions about the internal infrastructure setup. For example, it might assume that it has access to a hard coded S3 path. Itโ€™s actually a lot of effort to ensure a software can be run on anyoneโ€™s computer.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I see you watched PirateSoftware's video. I encourage you to watch Ross's response.

TL;DW this isn't a proposal to make current games or already dead games left in a playable state. The proposal is not retroactive. It's about the future. In the future, when this law is present, software developers will have to sign licenses that allow them to leave the game in a playable state. That means, they will have to adapt. It was possible before and it can be possible again.

Also, read the FAQ

Q: Isn't what you're asking for impossible due to existing license agreements publishers have with other companies?

A: For existing video games, it's possible that some being sold cannot have an "end of life" plan as they were created with necessary software that the publisher doesn't have permission to redistribute. Games like these would need to be either retired or grandfathered in before new law went into effect. For the European Citizens' Initiative in particular, even if passed, its effects would not be retroactive. So while it may not be possible to prevent some existing games from being destroyed, if the law were to change, future games could be designed with "end of life" plans and stop this trend.

[โ€“] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m just reacting to the idea that โ€releasing server side software for freeโ€ is trivial. Itโ€™s not. It requires deliberate effort from the engineers.

Iโ€™m speaking from experience maintaining server side software. I havenโ€™t watched Pirate Software.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That effort will have to be included in the development of a game. But can you explain what effort there would be? If you have a server .exe (or whatever) and have to release it. What has to be done? I'm assuming you're talking about a guide how to run it? Shouldn't that be part of the internal process already? New employees will also have to know how to run the server, right?

[โ€“] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Server side software is rarely โ€just an exeโ€. It involves databases, cron jobs, message queuing, and other internal tooling or cloud infrastructure. All of these must be in place properly for the software to function.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is it tested locally? There must be a way, right? Developers can't just be releasing stuff willy nilly to the main system in order to test it, can they?

[โ€“] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They probably donโ€™t test the entire server architecture locally. Maybe only a fragment of it, with the rest of the environment either mocked, or against a shared dev environment hosted in the cloud.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

As a non-dev, I can't say if that's standard, but it doesn't sound like good practice. Regardless, just like the woman said, GDPR was thought to have mAssIVe cOsTs upon development and business, but in the end companies dealt with it. Companies with insufficient preparation or unwilling to plan to leave the game in a playable state, will have to factor in the costs of not complying.

This issue is about consumer rights and if you're for "what you buy is what you own", then being against rendering games unplayable after purchase should be logical.

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