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[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Firefox? Aren't they just getting anonymous telemetry and setting the default search engine to Google? I know they changed their TOS in the past but how are they selling data?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mozilla purchased an advertisement company and a fair chunk of the board of Mozilla are ex google.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

are firefox forks better for now?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

so they're not selling the data, they're using it internally.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Just like google and Facebook.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, they hold the user data (supposedly its all generic, non-personally identifiable, and they dont build user profiles) and then have advertisers pay them to push targeted ads based on that data. This is how the tech companies make boatloads of cash - force advertisers to pay for a subscription to use the user data for targeted ads.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 week ago

yeah except it still doesn't seem to work for mozilla...

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this git diff speaks for itself.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It isn't a beauty but no it does not speak for itself.

[–] cacti@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but you can harden firefox

[–] cacti@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago

It's much better to just use a hardened fork like LibreWolf or Mullvad Browser from the start.