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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (26 children)

It's partly that, but it's also that doing what Democrats want never seems to get the turnout that it should.

Biden did student loan forgiveness, which should have given him all the college votes, yet people shurg and go "Well yea! About time!"

He puts money into infrastructures and unions and again, people go "I guess, it's a bit better than Republicans!"

Democratic voters suck ass at rallying behind any cause, because the base is filled with "well actually...!" people, that demand 100% problem completion on day one, otherwise they are not impressed.

And even if he solved every problem ever, they'd say, "Well yea, he should fix them... He caused most of them!"

Meanwhile, Republican voters will literarily vote for a rapist because they see the bigger picture. For as stupid as they are, they understand you have to be IN POWER to do anything.

Twirling your thumb in your asshole pining about raising taxes and fist past the post and equality for all and protecting minorities is a colossal waste of time if you don't VOTE.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I think a big issue is people expect democrats to enact the thing's they promise to enact and then they don't. And there's insane coping and denial used to justify it instead of allowing real critique.

Biden did student loan forgiveness,

Biden tried, no loans were forgiven, some loans were forced to be more ethical, but nobody was freed from the debt.

So that isn't seen as a win by a lot of people who wanted loan forgiveness and got a half assed attempt that didn't help.

Hell, he said he would forgive all student loans and make college free. Lol

He puts money into infrastructures and unions and again, people go "I guess, it's a bit better than Republicans!"

Again, this isn't really as true as I wish it was.

They put money into green energy corporations that hoard it offshore like other corps.

And Biden literally fought against unions while in office.

Democratic voters suck ass at rallying behind any cause, because the base is filled with "well actually...!" people, that demand 100% problem completion on day one, otherwise they are not impressed.

I try really really hard to not be contrarian about this shit, but Democrats aren't making partial progress on anything, they are failing to make positive meaningful change for working class people at the expense of the rich, which is a requirement for fixing wealth inequality, which is the source of the vast majority of economic and societal issues. Until Democrats are willing to force their rich owners to make concessions they will not be capable of supporting these kinds of policies.

Also blaming voters for the outcome of an election is not valid, it's up to politicians to provide something worth voting for and being capable of communicating those policies to their target voters.

Meanwhile, Republican voters will literarily vote for a rapist because they see the bigger picture.

Republicans vote for strongmen because their religious upbringing makes them subservient to anyone who can imitate the way their pastor made them feel.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Biden tried, no loans were forgiven, some loans were forced to be more ethical, but nobody was freed from the debt.

Factually untrue. My loans got forgiven.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Facts don't matter. All up and down this thread is just utter disregard for any aspect of reality that contradicts the narrative.

We're not any smarter than the fascists, apparently. Just less morally repugnant.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

All up and down this thread is just utter disregard for any aspect of reality that contradicts the narrative.

Welcome to Lemmy!

Unlike Reddit and its right wing trolls, we have leftish wannabes who are clearly are intellectually on even ground with any random right wing troll and they will downvote anyone who disagrees into oblivion at best and ban you most of the time.

These threads are no different than any r/conservative echo chamber. If their points could face criticism, they wouldn't need to downvote and they wouldn't need safe places.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago

We’re not any smarter than the fascists

I've been saying this for a while. Being 'on the left' is no guarantee that somebody is intelligent or a good person that cares about others. Anybody can say they're a leftist, but it's gotta be borne out of action or it's meaningless.

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