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[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This brings up a point I've been meaning to make for awhile: I don't think Europe has it in them.

The UK actually did some innovating, I mean Alan Turing himself was a Limey, and back in the day they had the likes of Sinclair and Acorn, and they invented the ARM processor, they're one of very few nations to have a processor architecture to their name. Basically the rest of computing innovation happened in the United States, like the industrial revolution before, we took what Britain invented and ran with it. Meanwhile Western Europe has had fuck all influence in the last 50 years of computing. The World Wide Web was invented at CERN, sure...by an Englishman. 35 years later, let's take a look at the top 50 visited websites worldwide and see just what Europe has done with their groundbreaking tech.

Of the 50, 30 are American. The top nine: Google, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, ChatGPT, X/Twitter, WhatsApp, Reddit and Wikipedia, are American. Tenth is Yahoo Japan followed by Yahoo!. The UK does not place on the list, and only four websites are from the EU: Xvideos and XNXX are French, Xhamster and Stripchat are...What's the adjective for 'from Cyprus?" Cyprian? Cyprese? Cypriot, apparently. "Honorable" mentions to Canada and India for their only entries, Pornhub and Eporner respectively.

Meanwhile, South Korea makes the list twice for Samsung.com and Naver.com, which is apparently their Google; they do everything from search and email to online payments and ISP. I'm pretty sure that if the US is descendant, the future is Asian, not European.

Microsoft, Google, Apple, IBM, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Europe has got nothing that even sort of competes with any of them, so for the last few months they've been publishing headlines about another township switching their computers from Windows to Linux. At one point there was announcement that EurOS or whatever they were going to call it was going to be a fork of Fedora...because they forgot SuSe Linux exists. They boldly announced they were switching from getting software directly from Microsoft, to getting it indirectly from IBM. For their x86 computers.

I simply don't think Europeans have it in them; the ones that did moved to the US over the last century and a half.

[โ€“] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Oh great. The rest of the world is apparently only good for getting fucked over...literally.

We need to get our shit together people!

[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The absolute best Europe could do would be to get machines running a RISC-V architecture running Linux in production and distribution. RISC-V was developed at UC Berkley, GNU at Harvard based on UNIX from Bell Labs and the Linux kernel by a Finnish-American named Torvalds. ARM is probably closer to production ready than RISC-V but you'll have to pay licenses to England and Japan for it.

Oh, and that's all desktop and server stuff. You've got an even deeper ditch to dig to get anything mobile that isn't based on Apple or Google tech. Not even Microsoft managed that.

Even if you did get that done, which you won't, you will have built "European digital sovereignty" upon the crumbs that fell off of America's dinner table. The 21st century was invented in Britain and built by the United States out of parts manufactured in Southeast Asia while Europe masturbated. And this was perfectly acceptable until this year, with the election of Tariff McBlusterCuck. Now you're gonna do it on your own.

Sure.

[โ€“] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody is going to be a slave to a narcissistic, fascist nation.

[โ€“] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

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The only reason the EU is not part of that great modern thing is because it's impossible to match the margins achieved with such a scale that things

invented in Britain and built by the United States out of parts manufactured in Southeast Asia while Europe masturbated

have.

I'm of an opinion that some downshifting is desperately needed. It won't happen anyway for surveillance and warfare, but EU-produced electronics are possible - they are doing it with MCs for cars and for plastic cards and for elevators and for microwaves and ... .

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