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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 69 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Well apparently there is considering it’s a popular service. I’m not sure what you mean by this.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (16 children)

It's popular because the companies that run it are profiting enough to keep doing it. The actually drivers, however, don't realize how much they're being screwed over.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I doubt we'll ever get data to support this but I suspect most drivers aren't drivers for very long. A few, who are otherwise entirely unemployable, may stick it out. It sounds like a much better deal than it is, I think most people realize that after a relatively short time.

My experience with doing deliveries was the only people who had been doing it for a while were a: broke as fuck and 2, exactly the opposite of the type of person you might want handling your food.

[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did delivery for long term at one point (doordash). Once you reach their highest rating and learn which orders to take/deny, it is actually quite profitable. Still massively exploitative, of course, but at the time I was making $18 an hour (high for my area), and that's also factoring in breaks and commute. I had a very fuel efficient hybrid which added to the value proposition. I was broke as fuck at the time, but it wasn't the job's fault, more the fact that I only worked exactly the amount of hours I needed each month to pay for my basic necessities and rent, and spent the rest with my friends and fiancee.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons.

I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable.

[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable.

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