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Firefox is not alright (lemmy.ca)
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I know the title itself will result in a ban because also the people behind firefox are not alright but we know that.

I think firefox is broken though I read posts FF is alright but the team is not.

Well i cant stand FF anymore. Not the people, the browser. I fear of the echochamber and incel brigade I will just outline some points that drove me away from FF and the forks.

  1. the design is shittier every iteration. EVERY iteration. The amount of whitespace with action/magic bar or whatever

  2. the tech behind the design is shittier every iteration. you install FF and it defaults to "os theme design" which can be ANYTHING from dynamic changes in the evening to whatever someone riced. This makes FF unuseable unless you are kid that just uses Google search. No, this functions makes pages ugly, hardly ever makes sense and is mocking the user! there are extensions to switch between light and dark, the weirdos at Moz again went full god mode and make all decisions for you. (like gutenberg for wordpress kind of)

  3. the people behind the tech behind the design are shit. I met few at events in europe - and thats how i imagine insane people with a god complex.

  4. the company behind the people behind the tech behind the design is shit by definition. sell us to google. betray us for facist america...you've done it all.

so, when is their next roadshow in europe...just asking for a friend.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

I know the title itself will result in a ban

We are not in Reddit my dude. Criticizing something in a productive way without being toxic should never be banned, even if the moderators disagree with your opinion (I assume).

I am a diehard Firefox user since its inception at version 1! And admittely there are couple of problems, especially with the company itself. Even me thinks about switching to a fork, but I still want to keep using the Firefox eco system and dislike the idea of a Chrome based browser.

I am responding to your points. These are no personal attacks or like that and I hope you take my points to heart as I did yours and treat with respect. Just because you encountered some troublesome people in the past does not mean I am one too. I am criticizing some of your critique (and agree on some).

  1. the design is shittier every iteration.

It's not that bad for me and it looks similar good to all other browsers. But I am also a person who make modifications in the default configuration and even go so far as to change settings via userChrome.css (no this has nothing to do with the Chrome browser, its just named like that). But your argumentation is understandable here.

  1. the tech behind the design is shittier every iteration.

I don't understand this point much. On my system the theme uses "System theme -- auto", which will make it look exactly like what the operating system decides to look for all applications. If you make changes to your operating systems theme, then this should be reflected in Firefox. And this is the correct default configuration every browser should do in my opinion. If you want some specialized settings that look different in your browser, then you have the ability to use other themes.

How does the system theme make Firefox unusable? Are all other applications using the system theme unusable too?? So as said, I don't get the problem here.

Moz again went full god mode and make all decisions for you

Not really. It uses what YOU have decided to use your operating system.

  1. the people behind the tech behind the design are shit.

This is just an insult point without explaining anything. This is one of those points that could lead to a ban. And that would be a good reason to! If you do not criticize with respect, then you won't get respect either. Do not insult and then say you got banned.

  1. the company behind the people behind the tech behind the design is shit by definition.

By your definition. There are good and bad things of the design people. And we are talking about the designers here right? Not the management. The management of the main company Mozilla is awful, I agree. And the decisions the Firefox team makes are sometimes bad too. So I don't think putting all of them together into one bucket and insult them is a productive comment.