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Wow.
A huge chunk of that Linux development was paid for by exploiting child gambling.
Just because one does a few good things with their money, doesn't justify how they got it.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
We can nitpick specific examples for everything you want, and we will be correct, but that detracts from the point that Gabe has helped to build things that took decades of slowly getting anywhere.
I wish we didn't need it, but we do.
Valve was making bank before lootcrates, and lootcrates have been available to kids since trading card games.
Sure, we know loot boxes are bad because they exploit the psychology of gambling. But what about Steam sales? They’re exploiting FOMO, hoarding/collecting psychology. We know that Steam users are buying billions of dollars worth of games they never play.
Now you're being actually ridiculous. "Sales are bad"? Really?
Regular sales are FOMO? Come on.
This dude is 100% correct and I have no idea why people are downvoting him. Sales make people more likely to buy a product due to being limited. Limited time sales work better than lowering prices in the long term.
It's why indie games do stuff like release their new games with time-limited 10% off discounts.
Ah yes, paying less is bad. Viva capitalism. /s
Are you daft or dumb? Pick one.
Paying less is good. I love sales, but they are still a psychological manipulation to get you to spend more money than you normally would.
Then its a good manipulation
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Child gambling? You mean like Android videogames and Google not caring about it for a while until some EU law??
I didn't knew that involved Valve too..
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here but I guarantee 0% of that wealth came from his investments in Linux support. Their investment in Linux is mostly a way of keeping MS in check, as in "if you try to fuck us the way Apple does with iOS, your customers will leave Windows because they'd rather have something where they can play their giant library of existing games".
Hey if Gabe wants to make Linux phones something to be taken seriously I’m all for that. Until then, Gemini creeps me the fuck out so no android. I can tolerate Siri being fucking dumb.
I think you missed the point. No one was talking about Android or iOS. We were talking about Windows and Linux.
Valve's investment in Linux began back in the Windows Vista days when MS tried to control Windows the same way that Apple does with iOS.
You literally mentioned iOS above. And my point stands. If Gabe were to start porting those games to a Linux phone of some sort, it would really help that platform, much like he’s helped the Linux community and his own business interests.
Him going after Microsoft benefits everybody. Him going after Apple could do the same.
It's literally called an analogy. It was not literally the subject of the conversation.
You're still literally demonstrating that you don't understand the motive of supporting Linux, despite me literally just explaining it.
Gabe literally does not care about the platform, he cares about protecting his revenue stream. Making Linux phones would literally not do that.
I understand this was motivated by his businesses interests. But it’s happens to benefit others as well. Value working to make Linux phones more viable is a bit of a pipe dream but it would certainly whip Google and Apple into shape. And that was my point.
Probably not anymore than it already does Apple and MS.
Man, I just can't stand a phone that seems like it's built for children to use and not be able to hurt themselves.
No, it's not a way to keep anything in check. It's a way to not pay license fees to Microsoft.
Same thing.
I don't take issue with rich people. Owning boats worth US$1 billion is past the point of rich.
Why are you taking the worth for granted though?
Man who didn't want his business to be completely reliant on Microsoft, made a decision to ensure his money in the future