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[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

English is stupid, but how does "latex" get a "k" ending? I have heard people arguing for years that it's supposed to be pronounced that way, but never any justification for why.

[โ€“] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From another comment:

The 'X' at the end of \LaTeX is actually a uppercase chi, so it pronounced with a 'k' sound.

[โ€“] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's also wrong, it's supposed to be a ch-sound as in Bach.

[โ€“] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Depending on the time. In ancient Greek it was /k^h^/ (aspirated k, basically the normal k in English) which turned to /x/ as you said but neither is wRoNG, especially when your native language doesn't have one if the sounds

[โ€“] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The k-sound is used when the chi is prefixed in front of certain vowels. The ch-sound is the truly correct pronunciation here, there's no history involved for that.

Knuth, the guy who coined it, also says the ch-sound is the correct one, though he also says the k-sound is also acceptable. As long as you do not use the ks-sound at least :)

[โ€“] froh42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Knuth is the perfect nerd, publishing a package where people are still discussing how to pronounce its name close to 50 years after.

[โ€“] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you saying that the historical pronunciation is irrelevant or are you denying language change?

The historical pronunciation of this letter is irrelevant because it's a modern word with a modern pronunciation.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had no idea that a software typesetting system was that old. Is that what Homer used to typeset the Odyssey?

[โ€“] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because it's not an X at the end, it's a Greek chi. Same with the arXiv preprint distribution


it's "archive," not are-ex-iv.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The greek ฯ‡ should be a "ch" sound like "Bach" or "Loch". And if you copy that last character from the project page or anything it's definitely an X, not a ฯ‡.

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed, "CH" like "Bach" or "loch" is an accepted pronunciation of LaTeX. We didn't have unicode in the 1980s and LaTeX is a logotype so it doesn't really get to evolve.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meh, it's pronounced Latex. I've chosen my hill to die on. Pretending it's a "k" or "ch" sound is dumb.

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can mispronounce any word you like.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I prefer to pronounce latex properly, just like the rubber.

[โ€“] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If by "latex" you mean \LaTeX, then that is impossible. Incidentally, it may interest you to know that the English alphabet does not map directly to phonemes or allophones. Sadly, you cannot know how a word is pronounced by looking at the letters that compose it. Isn't that wild?

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, just LaTeX, the typesetting system. The one named entirely in characters from the English alphabet, named after the polymer emulsion.

[โ€“] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Petition to change the name to RX4

[โ€“] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago

99 what you did there...

(I know, IC isn't valid Roman numeral representation of 99, but it was the only joke I could think of.)

[โ€“] Gyroplast@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Among the lovely revival of arguing the One True Pronunciation, I personally see lay-tech as a portmanteau of "layout technology". Meaning in German discourse, it's [tษ›รง], and in English [tษ›k]. Simple to remember, easy to derive, and matching the Gospel.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Except that it's spelled "Latex" with all letters from the English alphabet and there is already an existing word with that spelling, therefore it is pronounced the same way as that word. You don't pronounce "Laser" as "Lah Seer" even though the "A" comes from "Amplification" and the "E" from "Emission". Once it became a word, it was pronounced using standard English pronunciation rules.

Latex, like the rubber stuff.

[โ€“] Gyroplast@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Read the instructions", he was told, so he read them. And then he did lead Sean to the lead pipe.

[โ€“] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

standard English pronunciation rules

Lol. Lmao even.