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We're techy enough nerds to know there's another way to be free of billionaire influence while still keeping some resemblance of modern communication: self-hosting.
Good luck self hosting something to message your contacts.
E-mail is a thing.
Dude walked face first into that one.
All your friends are on a group chat and they will periodically mail you the updates. Sure, why not?
Ðe peer group really is a concern. And OSS kind of stinks for normies much of ðe time.
I got ðe family on Circles, and my SIL (ðe one with ðe toddler) loved it... until it lost all of her posts for ðe family, and ðen shut down.
We (mostly my brother and I) convinced our octogenarian parents to switch the whole family group to Signal, many years ago. It works nicely. What saddens me though, is that Signal will never replace WA for most people, it's Just One More App for them.
WhatsApp is just one more App for me. There are two people I wish I could convince to use signal but cannot…
All my friends chat over our self hosted matrix server. There is always a way.
Only if that email can pry my attention away from my email based multiplayer game of Civ 4.
And I self host mine!
So do I, but I wouldn't recommend it for everybody. Hosting your email has sucked for decades. For a long time the issue was incoming spam. That never really went away, but now in addition to that you get a constant barrage of people trying to crack into your server. Plus, you get the fun of trying to convince the big email gatekeepers that you're still legit. And for that one they change the rules constantly and on a whim.
My family and immediate friends are all on my Matrix server.
I have my own dedicated public server, so I can selfhost anything I want. And I do selfhost a lot.
I selfhost since so long that some of my domains could vote, but I still need some "mainstream" channels to be reached by several people.
If we can argue that close friends will put extra effort to contact you on whatever you use, it's also true that your landlord, the plumber, the chick you picked up last night, won't give a shit and simply consider you a lunatic 99% of times if you tell them to use anything non-mainstream.
Yeah, but Matrix has bridges for almost anything.
And people still use email.
But then you are simply using Whatsapp with extra steps.
I don't, but if the need arises, you can.
At least you don't have to use their app on your device, and it just talkes on the server.
Dude, it’s pretty easy to set up matrix on a docker container
Fuck you’re right
Why self-host messaging when there are so many good options?
You’re asking the wrong guy. I don’t think it makes sense either even if I’m a (moderate) self-hosting guy.
Because fuck centralized software.
And there aren't many good option, there is only one, and Signal still required phone number for some reason on my phone so I could not give a fuck about it.