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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Not many countries had to arm the person next to the coach driver to fight off natives defending their country against foreign invaders.

This obe didn't either. Staying home was usually an option.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, but many needed to protect those passengers from bandits and other assorted outlaws.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact: Joseph Stalin first became known to Lenin when he organized the successful robbery of a bank stagecoach in Russia. The stagecoaches were heavily protected by armed men riding on the outside of the coach as well as riding horses alongside, but Stalin observed that they tended to relax their guard upon reaching a densely-populated city, on the assumption that revolutionaries would not be willing to injure or kill innocent bystanders.

This assumption was very wrong in Stalin's case. He had his people lob satchel bombs at the coach and riders after they reached the city, killing most of the guards as well as nearly 100 innocent bystanders in the vicinity. They made off with a huge amount of money, and Lenin congratulated Stalin although he had only planned the operation and not participated in it. The importance of delegation!

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbilisi bank robbery

Bonus fun fact: part of the reason for their success might be that one of the local police informants was … Stalin.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm starting to think this Stalin guy has some red flags.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Huh, who knew that violent bank robbers who indiscriminately kill bystanders would ~~do a bunch of genocide after their violent takeover complete with secret police and gulags~~ I mean create the best goverbmont in history, praise USSR or something.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Look, stalin did a lot of things wrong, but robbing banks is pretty cool even with collateral damage.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Word? Lemme get your bank's address and the times you go, so I can rob it and shoot you in the fucking face in the process, y'know since killing innocent people in bank robberies is "cool" to you it should be pretty sweet for all involved. Put your money (or in this case, life) where your mouth is.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

money where your mouth is

I'm actually unbanked!

innocent

Totally. Killing innocent people isnt morally sound.

at a bank

So you mean coerced into complicity?

absolutely morally uncomplicated and good to simple binary morality

That is what cool means, yes. Learn to cope with complexity before getting pissy. If you're going to get precious about innocent dead, maybe talk more about cops and oligarchs.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lol I'm not usually one to wish death on people but I hope you get killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time by someone doing something "cool." You like it so much it just seems like it's wishing you well, even if that means death in your case.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ive been attavked by fascists and cops on mulriple occasions. I've been running for my life nonstop for twenty years. I have scars on just about wvery substantial portion of my body from things you dont consider violent, and scars on my empty heart from dead or irreparably ruined friends, ripped from me by institutions you consider innocent.

I live in a world of profound violence. I step out my front door each time knowing i could be killed, for any reason or none at all, by the protectors of your banks and their property. I go to sleep each night knowing i could be woken by a battering ram, and be dragged off to decades of torture if they don't kill me on the spot. I dream of friends lost to police dogs i only escaped by chance, dying of infected wounds in the shadow of a nodern hoapital in one of the wealthiest places to have ever existed in the literal shadow of a modern hospital, because the bank says they don't deserve care and the triage nurse is sick of seeing them and the easy to get antibiotics were exhausted in animal agriculture to make your line-go-up probably before i was born

Violence against those systems is cool. It makes me happy. Collateral damage against those complicit isn't something i have strong opinions on, but if you don't see me as human, why should i waste my heart on compassion for ypur bourgoise ass? I dream of a couple months of red terror against your centuries of white. I think that's cool, even in circumstances where it fails to be too terribly good, like 1917.

You wanting me dead is nothing new. Your kind has wanted me dead since my parents threw me out, since i was a literal child. Your outrage only tells me you're afraid now. That you know your abbotoir is on fire, and you sold all the fire suppression systems to buy more cops. There will casualties and 'innocents' and even inmocents¹ who die in that fire. I will cherish the beauty and warmth of that fire all the same, and only wish that I had been the one to set it.

¹i remember being one of those! If you gave a shit, you were cheering on everything that damned me. As you are now.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Oooh we got a badass over here lmao. I don't believe you btw, you're some keyboard warrior with an inflated sense of inportance.

You really think "guy standing in Erivansky Square while people indiscriminately bombed just so they could steal money" is "complicit?" Just simply existing near someone in a public square who is deigned a target by you is complicity? That's absolutely fucking stupid lmao, even tankies can't be this dumb. Your parents were right lmao, you suck. You think simply because I believe killing innocent bystanders indescriminately isn't "cool" that I'm afraid? You've clearly never heard of empathy or morals. You are a piece of shit, full stop, maybe if one of your loved ones dies in one of these "cool" attacks for simply walking next to a brinks truck at the wrong time you'll realize how objectively shitty you and your opinions are. Kindly fuck yourself in the eye.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm the times coaches like that became common it wasn't really safe to travel in most parts of the world.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Weren't these coaches a thing in the 19th century US, from which time the term comes? From what i could find quickly, Highway robbery became less of a thing in the UK and mainland Europe by the end of the 18th century.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

There was once a theory that the reason for the difference in which side a vehicle is driving on the road today, stems from whether a country had many stretches of untamed wilderness with lots of bandits. So if there was a high likelihood that whoever you met on the road was a danger, the horsecart driver preferred passing them on the side of their sword arm (right hand as default), while if you did not have to take that into account, you would pass them on the left hand side.

The theory has now largely been abandonded as spurious, but it does remain a fact that there were dangerous stretches of roads in older times in Europe as well.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not what it was for. They fired a shotgun before turning onto a road. If two wagons came head to head on a crappy old western road it could cause hours of delay because the horses would have to be hitched to the back of one of the wagons a pull it all the way back to the crossroad.

What an interesting creative writing exercise